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Re: [Linux-decnet-user] Linux distributions

[Patrick C. <pa...@ty...>]

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 04:33:44PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> Now I am trying to get a handle on which distribution everyone favors.
> Can each person who has subscribed to this list, confirm which one they
> have chosen? But not necessarily why. I grok that not everyone out there
> is using Slackware, as I am, but I would like to know what the
> preferences are for distributions. If they wish to do so, please do that
> off list, as I want to keep the list free from those responses.

In theory Debian should be the easiest to get working with DECnet  - if you can
run "testing" or "unstable" that is. All you need to do is make sure you are
running a 2.4 kernel and type

# apt-get install dnet-progs

answer a couple of questions and reboot(to set the MAC address).

My interest in this is that I am also the Debian maintainer of the DECnet
packages but that's not a financial one.

Now I'll let the real users of DECnet have their say...

Patrick

[Linux-decnet-user] Linux distributions

[Gregg C L. <dr...@wo...>]

Hello from Gregg C Levine
Now I am trying to get a handle on which distribution everyone favors.
Can each person who has subscribed to this list, confirm which one they
have chosen? But not necessarily why. I grok that not everyone out there
is using Slackware, as I am, but I would like to know what the
preferences are for distributions. If they wish to do so, please do that
off list, as I want to keep the list free from those responses.
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Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont

[Henry W. M. <hen...@at...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Caulfield" <pa...@ty...>
To: <lin...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 03:36
Subject: Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont


> On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 04:23:21AM -0800, Henry W. Miller wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick Caulfield" <pa...@ty...>
> > To: <lin...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 05:30
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I've uploaded a new symbiont.zip that has both VAX and Alpha
binaries
> > in it now.
> > > I still can't guarantee that it will run on VMS 5.5 as they were
both
> > compiled
> > > on 7.2 but it's worth a go.
> > >
> > > patrick
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Patrick,
> >
> >     From past experience, they probably won't run.  But, if you post
the
> > object
> > files or create a VMSINSTAL kit, they should link and then run OK.
> >

Patrick,

>
>
> Plus it would also have helped if I had remembered to build the ZIP
archive with
> "-V" to preserve the VMS file attributes....sorry.
>
> I've uploaded a new symbiont.zip that has that corrected and also has
the object
> files and BUILD_ALPHA and BUILD_VAX command procedures so you should
be able to
> get it to work on any version of VMS. I'll think about doing a
VMSINSTAL kit but
> I haven't done one for years so it may take some time.
>

    It's kind of like riding a bicycle - once you learn...  I think that
the manual for
writing VMSINSTAL kits is on-line at DEC, er, COMPAQ, I mean HP...

    If you get stuck, let me know - I've done my share of kits in my
time.

> patrick
>
>
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-decnet-user

-HWM

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont

[Patrick C. <pa...@ty...>]

On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 04:23:21AM -0800, Henry W. Miller wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Caulfield" <pa...@ty...>
> To: <lin...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 05:30
> Subject: Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont
> 
> 
> >
> > I've uploaded a new symbiont.zip that has both VAX and Alpha binaries
> in it now.
> > I still can't guarantee that it will run on VMS 5.5 as they were both
> compiled
> > on 7.2 but it's worth a go.
> >
> > patrick
> >
> >
> 
> Patrick,
> 
>     From past experience, they probably won't run.  But, if you post the
> object
> files or create a VMSINSTAL kit, they should link and then run OK.
> 


Plus it would also have helped if I had remembered to build the ZIP archive with
"-V" to preserve the VMS file attributes....sorry.

I've uploaded a new symbiont.zip that has that corrected and also has the object
files and BUILD_ALPHA and BUILD_VAX command procedures so you should be able to
get it to work on any version of VMS. I'll think about doing a VMSINSTAL kit but
I haven't done one for years so it may take some time. 

patrick

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] Kernel versions

[Patrick C. <pa...@ty...>]

On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 11:40:31PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> I certainly hope I  am posting this in the right list. I have a Linux

This is certainly the right list.

> System which is running 2.2.18, but not the 2.2.16 kernel. Do I need the
> patch for this version of the kernel? But I can run the 2.4.x series of
> the kernels here. The system is running the Slackware distribution. And
> it is on a Pentium 100.

The 2.2 patches may work with 2.2.18, to be honest I haven't tested them on that
version. If the patch applies OK then I imagine it will run OK.

Linux 2.4 is really the recommended kernel for running DECnet though, there has
been no development on the 2.2 version for some time and the DECnet code in 2.4
is more stable and secure for that reason.

patrick

[Linux-decnet-user] Kernel versions

[Gregg C L. <dr...@wo...>]

Hello from Gregg C Levine
I certainly hope I  am posting this in the right list. I have a Linux
System which is running 2.2.18, but not the 2.2.16 kernel. Do I need the
patch for this version of the kernel? But I can run the 2.4.x series of
the kernels here. The system is running the Slackware distribution. And
it is on a Pentium 100.
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Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont

[Henry W. M. <hen...@at...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Caulfield" <pa...@ty...>
To: <lin...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 05:30
Subject: Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont


>
> I've uploaded a new symbiont.zip that has both VAX and Alpha binaries
in it now.
> I still can't guarantee that it will run on VMS 5.5 as they were both
compiled
> on 7.2 but it's worth a go.
>
> patrick
>
>

Patrick,

    From past experience, they probably won't run.  But, if you post the
object
files or create a VMSINSTAL kit, they should link and then run OK.

-HWM

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Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont

[Patrick C. <pa...@ty...>]

I've uploaded a new symbiont.zip that has both VAX and Alpha binaries in it now.
I still can't guarantee that it will run on VMS 5.5 as they were both compiled
on 7.2 but it's worth a go.

patrick

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] symbiont

[Patrick C. <pa...@ty...>]

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:10:40PM +0100, Raimund Huemmer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> since our DECserver is broken, I have the idea to let my Linux DECnet
> Node act as a Printserver. All Printjobs from the VAX should be
> directed to the Linux Node. 
> 
> I thought Symbiont could be the right Tool and downloaded it.
> 
> I copied linuxsym.exe to the vax (VMS 5.5) and get this output:
> 
> $dir/prot/size sys$system:linuxsym.exe
> 
> Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
> 
> LINUXSYM.EXE;1		     61     (RWED,RWED,RE, )
> 
> Total of 1 file, 61 blocks.
> 
> $init/queue/start/proc=linuxsym/on=brian NEWQUEUE
> %IMGACT-F-IMG_SIZ, image header decriptor length is invalid
> 
> 
> What's wrong here?
> 

The binary in the package is an Alpha binary not a VAX one - sorry for not
making that clear. I haven't got round to packaging the VAX one yet. I did
build it for VAX and then the disk drive on my VAX died so I don't have it any
more!

You can either build it yourself from source or wait a couple of days and I'll
geta VAX binary uploaded.

To build it from source you'll need a C compiler and MMS or MMK (mmk is
freeware), just unpack the sources and type

$ MMK/IGNORE=WARNINGS

patrick

[Linux-decnet-user] symbiont

[Raimund H. <ra...@ba...>]

Hi,

since our DECserver is broken, I have the idea to let my Linux DECnet
Node act as a Printserver. All Printjobs from the VAX should be
directed to the Linux Node. 

I thought Symbiont could be the right Tool and downloaded it.

I copied linuxsym.exe to the vax (VMS 5.5) and get this output:

$dir/prot/size sys$system:linuxsym.exe

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

LINUXSYM.EXE;1		     61     (RWED,RWED,RE, )

Total of 1 file, 61 blocks.

$init/queue/start/proc=linuxsym/on=brian NEWQUEUE
%IMGACT-F-IMG_SIZ, image header decriptor length is invalid


What's wrong here?

Thanks in advance,
Raimund

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[Linux-decnet-user] Routing message grabulator

[Steven W. <st...@gw...>]

Hi,

The initial public version of the DECnet routing message grabulator is
on my kernel patches page:

http://www.chygwyn.com/~steve/kpatch/

Its designed for use with Patrick's DECnet routing software (or indeed
any other routing software that needs to get DECnet routing messages).
Its still alpha test code, so its there more for interest than actual
use at the moment. The plan is to integrate it into 2.5 at some future
date when the userland software is ready and further debugging has been
done on the kernel DECnet routing software.

One of the main problems keeping the DECnet module from coping with module
unloads was the slab destruction problem. This has been fixed in recent
kernels, so I hope that shortly I'll be able to find the time to make
DECnet take advantage of that and get module unloading working again.

In the mean time (and I know I've been rather distracted of late so
apologies if I've missed anything) if there are any outstanding bugs
or issues in the existing kernel code (particularly in 2.4) then please
send them in my direction.

Thanks,

Steve.

[Linux-decnet-user] latd 1.14

[Patrick C. <pa...@ty...>]

I've uploaded LATD 1.14 to sourceforge.

The main change is the rewrite of the ethernet flow control layer which should
be much more reliable than the last but I'd like people to test it if they can.

The changelog reads as follows:

  * gcc-3.0 compilation fixes in the new bits
  * Rewritten ethernet flow control
  * Increase moprc timeout a little.
  * Don't try to process zero-length packets
  * Include lat.html documentation
  * Tested on DECserver 700
  * Send "no more slots on circuit" message when closing a connection for
    that reason. Fixes reconnection on DECserver 90L+

I'd like to thank Denis Komissarov for chasing and reporting a lot of bugs
(there's one still outstanding I'm afraid) and I should have thanked  
Rob Davies two releases ago for the DECserver 90L+s  without which latd would
not be working on those devices.

This is still a sort of beta release (though, to be honest, it's probably better
than 1.03!) when I've decided all the new code is stable I'll probably call it
1.5 or something.

Get it from:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/linux-decnet/latd-1.14.tar.gz

patrick

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] cannot dnping to cisco router

[Patrick C. <pa...@ty...>]

On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 12:22:43PM +0100, Lhota Robert wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have installed DECnet package to Linux. Everything works fine, I can
> dnping to VAX machines in the network but I cannot dnping to Cisco
> Routers (supporting DECnet).
> If I try to dnping to Cisco router I will get the err. message:
> "Transport Endpoint Is Not Connected"
> Does anybody know where can be the problem? 

I suspect that the cisco doesn't implement the MIRROR object.

Try this from a VMS machine:

$ MCR NCP LOOP NODE <cisco>  

And see if it gives any error - If it does then that's why dnping doesn't work.

If that does work then I'd like to see a tcpdump of the network traffic please.

patrick

[Linux-decnet-user] cannot dnping to cisco router

[Lhota R. <rl...@co...>]

Hello,

I have installed DECnet package to Linux. Everything works fine, I can
dnping to VAX machines in the network but I cannot dnping to Cisco
Routers (supporting DECnet).
If I try to dnping to Cisco router I will get the err. message:
"Transport Endpoint Is Not Connected"
Does anybody know where can be the problem?=20

Thank you in advance,
Robert Lhota


P.S.: Decnet ping LinuxDECNET -> VAX works fine, decnet ping CiscoRouter
-> CiscoRouter works fine, CiscoRouter -> VAX works also fine, only
LinuxDECNET <-> CiscoRouter makes the problem.

[Linux-decnet-user] Bug Fixed

[Patrick C. <pa...@ty...>]

I don't normally post single, minor bug fixes to the list but this is such a
long-standing one that's annoyed to many people I though it was worthwhile.

ctermd now recognises the DEL key !!!

The fix is in CVS and will be part of a 2.19 release. I don't have a date for
this release cos there are some other things that are being dealt with, so
for the impatient the patch is below:

Patrick


diff -u -w -r1.4 -r1.5
--- ctermd.c    22 Sep 2000 09:01:08 -0000      1.4
+++ ctermd.c    2 Mar 2002 11:08:04 -0000       1.5
@@ -179,7 +179,7 @@
 {
        char    cterm_stread_msg[] = {  0x09,0x00,0x31,0x00,
                                        0x02,
-                                       0x40,0x48,0x01,
+                                       0x40,0x4A,0x01,
                                        0xa0,0x00,0x00,0x00,
                                        0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,
                                        0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,


patrick