linux-decnet-user — Discussion for users of DECnet on Linux

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] DECnet: Use container_of() for embedded struct

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Kees Cook <kee...@ch...>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 15:31:44 -0700

> Instead of a direct cross-type cast, use conatiner_of() to locate
> the embedded structure, even in the face of future struct layout
> randomization.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <kee...@ch...>

Applied.

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH net-next 1/1] decnet: Use TCP nagle macro instead of literal number in decnet

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: fg...@ik...
Date: Sat,  4 Mar 2017 22:10:28 +0800

> From: Gao Feng <fg...@ik...>
> 
> Use existing TCP nagle macro TCP_NAGLE_OFF and TCP_NAGLE_CORK instead
> of the literal number 1 and 2 in the current decnet codes.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Gao Feng <fg...@ik...>

Applied.

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] net: use designated initializers

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Kees Cook <kee...@ch...>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:58:58 -0800

> Prepare to mark sensitive kernel structures for randomization by making
> sure they're using designated initializers. These were identified during
> allyesconfig builds of x86, arm, and arm64, with most initializer fixes
> extracted from grsecurity.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <kee...@ch...>

Applied, although "decnet: " would have been a much better
subsystem prefix.

[Linux-decnet-user] 'make rpm' fails

[Hartmut B. <Har...@co...>]

Oracle Linux Server release 7.1
# cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.1 (Maipo)
# uname -a
Linux oel.wherever.net 3.8.13-118.el7uek.x86_64 #2 SMP Tue Nov 10
18:25:35 PST 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
# cc -v
Using built-in specs.
COLLECT_GCC=cc
COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.8.3/lto-wrapper
Target: x86_64-redhat-linux
Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info
--with-bugurl=http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-bootstrap
--enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release
--with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions
--enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-linker-build-id
--with-linker-hash-style=gnu
--enable-languages=c,c++,objc,obj-c++,java,fortran,ada,go,lto
--enable-plugin --enable-initfini-array --disable-libgcj
--with-isl=/builddir/build/BUILD/gcc-4.8.3-20140911/obj-x86_64-redhat-linux/isl-install
--with-cloog=/builddir/build/BUILD/gcc-4.8.3-20140911/obj-x86_64-redhat-linux/cloog-install
--enable-gnu-indirect-function --with-tune=generic --with-arch_32=x86-64
--build=x86_64-redhat-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9) (GCC)
#

The DNprogs build with a couple of warnings, for example

connection.cc:932:26: warning: narrowing conversion of ‘(((int)crc) &
255)’ from ‘int’ to ‘char’ inside { } is ill-formed in
C++11 [-Wnarrowing]
connection.cc:932:36: warning: narrowing conversion of ‘(((int)crc) >>
8)’ from ‘int’ to ‘char’ inside { } is ill-formed in
C++11 [-Wnarrowing]
connection.cc:932:26: warning: narrowing conversion of ‘(((int)crc) &
255)’ from ‘int’ to ‘char’ inside { } is ill-formed in
C++11 [-Wnarrowing]
connection.cc:932:36: warning: narrowing conversion of ‘(((int)crc) >>
8)’ from ‘int’ to ‘char’ inside { } is ill-formed in
C++11 [-Wnarrowing]
readwrite.cc:98:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant
to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings]
readwrite.cc:98:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant
to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings]
...

I didn't try to set any language mode with any -std option. Maybe that
fixes at least C++11 warnings.

Anyway, the results seem to work. However I can't build an RPM (binaries
are what I need).
'make rpm' fails with

install: failed to access
‘/root/decnet-dnprogs/dnprogs-2.61-orig/rpmbuild/etc/rc.d/init.d/decnet’: Not
a directory
make[2]: *** [install] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory /root/decnet-dnprogs/dnprogs-2.61-orig/scripts'
make[1]: *** [install] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory /root/decnet-dnprogs/dnprogs-2.61-orig'
make: *** [rpm] Error 2

That's only the first of several failures. I can work/hack around them
by changing ./dnetd/Makefile, ./Makefile, ./rpm.spec and
finally manuall doing a rpmbuild. But I'm not an rpm expert. So maybe
someone wants to have a look at this.
hartmut@becker--6735b:~$ jed dnprogs.txt
hartmut@becker--6735b:~$ cat dnprogs.txt
# cat /etc/oracle-release
Oracle Linux Server release 7.1
# cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.1 (Maipo)
# uname -a
Linux oel.wherever.net 3.8.13-118.el7uek.x86_64 #2 SMP Tue Nov 10
18:25:35 PST 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
# cc -v
Using built-in specs.
COLLECT_GCC=cc
COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.8.3/lto-wrapper
Target: x86_64-redhat-linux
Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info
--with-bugurl=http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-bootstrap
--enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release
--with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions
--enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-linker-build-id
--with-linker-hash-style=gnu
--enable-languages=c,c++,objc,obj-c++,java,fortran,ada,go,lto
--enable-plugin --enable-initfini-array --disable-libgcj
--with-isl=/builddir/build/BUILD/gcc-4.8.3-20140911/obj-x86_64-redhat-linux/isl-install
--with-cloog=/builddir/build/BUILD/gcc-4.8.3-20140911/obj-x86_64-redhat-linux/cloog-install
--enable-gnu-indirect-function --with-tune=generic --with-arch_32=x86-64
--build=x86_64-redhat-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9) (GCC)
#

The dnprogs-2.61 build with a couple of warnings, for example

connection.cc:932:26: warning: narrowing conversion of ‘(((int)crc) &
255)’ from ‘int’ to ‘char’ inside { } is ill-formed in
C++11 [-Wnarrowing]
connection.cc:932:36: warning: narrowing conversion of ‘(((int)crc) >>
8)’ from ‘int’ to ‘char’ inside { } is ill-formed in
C++11 [-Wnarrowing]
connection.cc:932:26: warning: narrowing conversion of ‘(((int)crc) &
255)’ from ‘int’ to ‘char’ inside { } is ill-formed in
C++11 [-Wnarrowing]
connection.cc:932:36: warning: narrowing conversion of ‘(((int)crc) >>
8)’ from ‘int’ to ‘char’ inside { } is ill-formed in
C++11 [-Wnarrowing]
readwrite.cc:98:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant
to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings]
readwrite.cc:98:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant
to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings]
...

I didn't try to set any language mode with any -std option. Maybe that
fixes at least C++11 warnings.

Anyway, the results seem to work. However I can't build an RPM (binaries
are what I need).
'make rpm' fails with

install: failed to access
‘/root/decnet-dnprogs/dnprogs-2.61-orig/rpmbuild/etc/rc.d/init.d/decnet’: Not
a directory
make[2]: *** [install] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory /root/decnet-dnprogs/dnprogs-2.61-orig/scripts'
make[1]: *** [install] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory /root/decnet-dnprogs/dnprogs-2.61-orig'
make: *** [rpm] Error 2

That's only the first of several failures. I can work/hack around them
by changing ./dnetd/Makefile, ./Makefile, ./rpm.spec and
finally manuall doing a rpmbuild. But I'm not an rpm expert. So maybe
someone wants to have a look at this.

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[James C. <cor...@ma...>]

Our DAP capabilities  are fairly extensive. We optimized the acknowledgement process such that the file transfer speeds were faster the DEC to DEC. DEC file Transfer was faster between our dap implementation and their implementation 

I will update this post with the command options/ parameters 

I will also confirm that we make a determination based on Linux file type and transfer using the appropriate DEC file type and the reverse

I will post the mapping tomorrow 

You may also override the file type mapping from command line 

We have interfaces for oracle as well as we worked with them for a year to implement their DECnet interfaces for sun HP IBM and many more



James Corrigan
Manage Operations

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cor...@Ma...
C: +1.919.349.8767
V: +1.919.521.8914


> On Feb 19, 2016, at 00:47, Larry Baker <ba...@us...> wrote:
> 
> We use the linux-denet FAL (File Access Listener) server, which implements DEC's DAP (Data Access Protocol).  The Linux FAL has a configuration file that uses the file suffix to look up RMS file attributes for common use cases.  Otherwise, I think it defaults to STREAM_LF format.
> 
> I think your DECnet routing code is the golden egg.  If DECnet routing works without a Linux decnet kernel module, I would think the userland stuff would be a much easier chore to get working.
>  
> Larry Baker
> US Geological Survey
> 650-329-5608
> ba...@us...
> 
> 
> 
>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 9:39 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>> 
>> The implementation of DECnet LAT and MOP are complete including 
>> 
>> a programming API, 
>> 
>> level 1 and 2 routing ( we wrote the DECnet routing code for IBM's and Cabletron's DECnet router products 
>> 
>> NCP with VMS like help ( VMS like help exists for all commands: sethost copy and such)
>> 
>> Interlink used our code for their IBM SNA DECnet gateway and it has been fully stress tested
>> 
>> What commands are you interested in using? 
>> 
>> James Corrigan
>> Manage Operations
>> 
>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>> 
>> cor...@Ma...
>> C: +1.919.349.8767
>> V: +1.919.521.8914
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 22:38, Larry Baker <ba...@us...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> James,
>>> 
>>> Do you have any idea whether the linux-decnet user land utilities do/might work?  Being relieved of tracking Linux kernel network driver changes in the Linux decnet module would be a big improvement.
>>> 
>>> Larry Baker
>>> US Geological Survey
>>> 650-329-5608
>>> ba...@us...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 7:27 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dave
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel Watts, Bao Claylinde, Barry Stone and I worked on this network stack for many years. One other fellow, a friend of Dan's, did the MOP implementation 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan and I worked in it starting in 1985. Bao joined a few years later and work the Ethernet driver with IBM engineers for AiX. I believe he also helped HP Ethernet driver as well. These drivers are well implemented everywhere now allowing the change of address to the AA-Xx-Xx DECnet address space. Bao also greatly improved the performance of our LAT
>>>> 
>>>> The code compiles on all modern Linux and UNIX systems as it is a user space implementation. I do need to remove the activation key code so no activation key will be required
>>>> 
>>>> John Montgomery who is working for Microsoft now wrote the extensive documentation. It is very comprehensive and took a good while to complete with his then fiancé!  
>>>> 
>>>> If folks would let me know the versions of Linux and UNIX that they need tested I will set up a development environment for those servers and confirm that it is operational. I believe we have functionality test suites as well that I will make available.
>>>> 
>>>> I appreciate your interest 
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> James Corrigan
>>>> Manage Operations
>>>> 
>>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>>>> 
>>>> cor...@Ma...
>>>> C: +1.919.349.8767
>>>> V: +1.919.521.8914
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:52, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
>>>>> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
>>>>> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
>>>>> will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
>>>>> proceed?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  And, of course, thank you for doing this!
>>>>> 
>>>>>            -Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>>>> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> James Corrigan
>>>>>> Manage Operations
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
>>>>>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
>>>>>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
>>>>>> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>>>>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>>>>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>>>>>>> this free software?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>              -Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>>>>>> New Kensington, PA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>>>> New Kensington, PA
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
>>>> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
>>>> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
>>>> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140_______________________________________________
>>>> Project Home Page: http://linux-decnet.wiki.sourceforge.net/
>>>> 
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>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-decnet-user
> 

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[Eduardo M. S. <ems...@ho...>]

Hi everybody,
It is amazing to see this list becoming active again. FYI all user land utilities use sockets API. Should James API be that I think most of them and libraries could be recompiled and work with the user land DECnet implementation.
Looking forward to see this moving forward soon.
Regards,Eduardo Marcelo Serrat

From: ba...@us...
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:47:54 -0800
To: cor...@ma...
CC: Lin...@li...
Subject: Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

We use the linux-denet FAL (File Access Listener) server, which implements DEC's DAP (Data Access Protocol).  The Linux FAL has a configuration file that uses the file suffix to look up RMS file attributes for common use cases.  Otherwise, I think it defaults to STREAM_LF format.
I think your DECnet routing code is the golden egg.  If DECnet routing works without a Linux decnet kernel module, I would think the userland stuff would be a much easier chore to get working.
 

Larry Baker
US Geological Survey
650-329-5608
ba...@us...





On 18 Feb 2016, at 9:39 PM, James Corrigan wrote:The implementation of DECnet LAT and MOP are complete including 
a programming API, 
level 1 and 2 routing ( we wrote the DECnet routing code for IBM's and Cabletron's DECnet router products 
NCP with VMS like help ( VMS like help exists for all commands: sethost copy and such)
Interlink used our code for their IBM SNA DECnet gateway and it has been fully stress tested
What commands are you interested in using? 

James Corrigan
Manage Operations

ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ

cor...@Ma...
C: +1.919.349.8767
V: +1.919.521.8914


On Feb 18, 2016, at 22:38, Larry Baker <ba...@us...> wrote:

James,
Do you have any idea whether the linux-decnet user land utilities do/might work?  Being relieved of tracking Linux kernel network driver changes in the Linux decnet module would be a big improvement.

Larry Baker
US Geological Survey
650-329-5608
ba...@us...





On 18 Feb 2016, at 7:27 PM, James Corrigan wrote:Hi Dave
Daniel Watts, Bao Claylinde, Barry Stone and I worked on this network stack for many years. One other fellow, a friend of Dan's, did the MOP implementation 
Dan and I worked in it starting in 1985. Bao joined a few years later and work the Ethernet driver with IBM engineers for AiX. I believe he also helped HP Ethernet driver as well. These drivers are well implemented everywhere now allowing the change of address to the AA-Xx-Xx DECnet address space. Bao also greatly improved the performance of our LAT
The code compiles on all modern Linux and UNIX systems as it is a user space implementation. I do need to remove the activation key code so no activation key will be required
John Montgomery who is working for Microsoft now wrote the extensive documentation. It is very comprehensive and took a good while to complete with his then fiancé!  
If folks would let me know the versions of Linux and UNIX that they need tested I will set up a development environment for those servers and confirm that it is operational. I believe we have functionality test suites as well that I will make available.
I appreciate your interest 
Jim

James Corrigan
Manage Operations

ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ

cor...@Ma...
C: +1.919.349.8767
V: +1.919.521.8914


On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:52, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:


  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.

  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
proceed?

  And, of course, thank you for doing this!

            -Dave

On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 

James Corrigan
Manage Operations

ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ

cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>


On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
<mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:

On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
UNIX and Linux and Windows

My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA

If there is interest please reach out

 I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
this free software?

              -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


-- 
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New Kensington, PA
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Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[Larry B. <ba...@us...>]

We use the linux-denet FAL (File Access Listener) server, which implements DEC's DAP (Data Access Protocol).  The Linux FAL has a configuration file that uses the file suffix to look up RMS file attributes for common use cases.  Otherwise, I think it defaults to STREAM_LF format.

I think your DECnet routing code is the golden egg.  If DECnet routing works without a Linux decnet kernel module, I would think the userland stuff would be a much easier chore to get working.
 
Larry Baker
US Geological Survey
650-329-5608
ba...@us...



On 18 Feb 2016, at 9:39 PM, James Corrigan wrote:

> The implementation of DECnet LAT and MOP are complete including 
> 
> a programming API, 
> 
> level 1 and 2 routing ( we wrote the DECnet routing code for IBM's and Cabletron's DECnet router products 
> 
> NCP with VMS like help ( VMS like help exists for all commands: sethost copy and such)
> 
> Interlink used our code for their IBM SNA DECnet gateway and it has been fully stress tested
> 
> What commands are you interested in using? 
> 
> James Corrigan
> Manage Operations
> 
> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
> 
> cor...@Ma...
> C: +1.919.349.8767
> V: +1.919.521.8914
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 22:38, Larry Baker <ba...@us...> wrote:
> 
>> James,
>> 
>> Do you have any idea whether the linux-decnet user land utilities do/might work?  Being relieved of tracking Linux kernel network driver changes in the Linux decnet module would be a big improvement.
>> 
>> Larry Baker
>> US Geological Survey
>> 650-329-5608
>> ba...@us...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 7:27 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dave
>>> 
>>> Daniel Watts, Bao Claylinde, Barry Stone and I worked on this network stack for many years. One other fellow, a friend of Dan's, did the MOP implementation 
>>> 
>>> Dan and I worked in it starting in 1985. Bao joined a few years later and work the Ethernet driver with IBM engineers for AiX. I believe he also helped HP Ethernet driver as well. These drivers are well implemented everywhere now allowing the change of address to the AA-Xx-Xx DECnet address space. Bao also greatly improved the performance of our LAT
>>> 
>>> The code compiles on all modern Linux and UNIX systems as it is a user space implementation. I do need to remove the activation key code so no activation key will be required
>>> 
>>> John Montgomery who is working for Microsoft now wrote the extensive documentation. It is very comprehensive and took a good while to complete with his then fiancé!  
>>> 
>>> If folks would let me know the versions of Linux and UNIX that they need tested I will set up a development environment for those servers and confirm that it is operational. I believe we have functionality test suites as well that I will make available.
>>> 
>>> I appreciate your interest 
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> James Corrigan
>>> Manage Operations
>>> 
>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>>> 
>>> cor...@Ma...
>>> C: +1.919.349.8767
>>> V: +1.919.521.8914
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:52, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
>>>> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
>>>> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.
>>>> 
>>>>  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
>>>> will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
>>>> proceed?
>>>> 
>>>>  And, of course, thank you for doing this!
>>>> 
>>>>            -Dave
>>>> 
>>>> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>>> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
>>>>> 
>>>>> James Corrigan
>>>>> Manage Operations
>>>>> 
>>>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>>>>> 
>>>>> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
>>>>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
>>>>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
>>>>> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>>>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>>>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>>>>>> this free software?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>              -Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>>>>> New Kensington, PA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>>> New Kensington, PA
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
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>> 

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[James C. <cor...@ma...>]

Zane

I am glad to make this capability available

I appreciate your interest 

Jim

James Corrigan
Manage Operations

ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ

cor...@Ma...
C: +1.919.349.8767
V: +1.919.521.8914


> On Feb 18, 2016, at 22:15, Zane Healy <he...@ar...> wrote:
> 
> Blasted mail lists you have to reply-all too, I just realize I only replied to Dave. :-)
> 
> I’m not sure how active this list is anymore, but I’d just like to say that I agree with Dave, this would be amazing!  Unfortunately I have zero time for such things at the moment.  :-(  But would still love to see this available!
> 
> Zane
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
>> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
>> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.
>> 
>> I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
>> will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
>> proceed?
>> 
>> And, of course, thank you for doing this!
>> 
>>           -Dave
>> 
>>> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
>>> 
>>> James Corrigan
>>> Manage Operations
>>> 
>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>>> 
>>> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
>>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
>>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
>>> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>>> 
>>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>>> 
>>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>>>> this free software?
>>>> 
>>>>             -Dave
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>>> New Kensington, PA
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>> New Kensington, PA
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
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> 

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[James C. <cor...@ma...>]

The implementation of DECnet LAT and MOP are complete including 

a programming API, 

level 1 and 2 routing ( we wrote the DECnet routing code for IBM's and Cabletron's DECnet router products 

NCP with VMS like help ( VMS like help exists for all commands: sethost copy and such)

Interlink used our code for their IBM SNA DECnet gateway and it has been fully stress tested

What commands are you interested in using? 

James Corrigan
Manage Operations

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cor...@Ma...
C: +1.919.349.8767
V: +1.919.521.8914


> On Feb 18, 2016, at 22:38, Larry Baker <ba...@us...> wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> Do you have any idea whether the linux-decnet user land utilities do/might work?  Being relieved of tracking Linux kernel network driver changes in the Linux decnet module would be a big improvement.
> 
> Larry Baker
> US Geological Survey
> 650-329-5608
> ba...@us...
> 
> 
> 
>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 7:27 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave
>> 
>> Daniel Watts, Bao Claylinde, Barry Stone and I worked on this network stack for many years. One other fellow, a friend of Dan's, did the MOP implementation 
>> 
>> Dan and I worked in it starting in 1985. Bao joined a few years later and work the Ethernet driver with IBM engineers for AiX. I believe he also helped HP Ethernet driver as well. These drivers are well implemented everywhere now allowing the change of address to the AA-Xx-Xx DECnet address space. Bao also greatly improved the performance of our LAT
>> 
>> The code compiles on all modern Linux and UNIX systems as it is a user space implementation. I do need to remove the activation key code so no activation key will be required
>> 
>> John Montgomery who is working for Microsoft now wrote the extensive documentation. It is very comprehensive and took a good while to complete with his then fiancé!  
>> 
>> If folks would let me know the versions of Linux and UNIX that they need tested I will set up a development environment for those servers and confirm that it is operational. I believe we have functionality test suites as well that I will make available.
>> 
>> I appreciate your interest 
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> James Corrigan
>> Manage Operations
>> 
>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>> 
>> cor...@Ma...
>> C: +1.919.349.8767
>> V: +1.919.521.8914
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:52, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
>>> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
>>> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.
>>> 
>>>  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
>>> will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
>>> proceed?
>>> 
>>>  And, of course, thank you for doing this!
>>> 
>>>            -Dave
>>> 
>>>> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
>>>> 
>>>> James Corrigan
>>>> Manage Operations
>>>> 
>>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>>>> 
>>>> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
>>>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
>>>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
>>>> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>>>> 
>>>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>>>>> this free software?
>>>>> 
>>>>>              -Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>>>> New Kensington, PA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>> New Kensington, PA
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
>> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
>> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
>> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140_______________________________________________
>> Project Home Page: http://linux-decnet.wiki.sourceforge.net/
>> 
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>> Lin...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-decnet-user
> 

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[Robert A. <bo...@jf...>]

>If folks would let me know the versions of Linux and UNIX that they need tested

> I will set up a development environment for those servers and confirm that it is operational. 

 

  Wow, this is wonderful!!    Ubuntu, 14.04LTS please (or any recent Ubuntu distro for that matter).

 

Thanks again, this is great news.

 

Bob

 

 

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[Larry B. <ba...@us...>]

James,

Do you have any idea whether the linux-decnet user land utilities do/might work?  Being relieved of tracking Linux kernel network driver changes in the Linux decnet module would be a big improvement.

Larry Baker
US Geological Survey
650-329-5608
ba...@us...



On 18 Feb 2016, at 7:27 PM, James Corrigan wrote:

> Hi Dave
> 
> Daniel Watts, Bao Claylinde, Barry Stone and I worked on this network stack for many years. One other fellow, a friend of Dan's, did the MOP implementation 
> 
> Dan and I worked in it starting in 1985. Bao joined a few years later and work the Ethernet driver with IBM engineers for AiX. I believe he also helped HP Ethernet driver as well. These drivers are well implemented everywhere now allowing the change of address to the AA-Xx-Xx DECnet address space. Bao also greatly improved the performance of our LAT
> 
> The code compiles on all modern Linux and UNIX systems as it is a user space implementation. I do need to remove the activation key code so no activation key will be required
> 
> John Montgomery who is working for Microsoft now wrote the extensive documentation. It is very comprehensive and took a good while to complete with his then fiancé!  
> 
> If folks would let me know the versions of Linux and UNIX that they need tested I will set up a development environment for those servers and confirm that it is operational. I believe we have functionality test suites as well that I will make available.
> 
> I appreciate your interest 
> 
> Jim
> 
> James Corrigan
> Manage Operations
> 
> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
> 
> cor...@Ma...
> C: +1.919.349.8767
> V: +1.919.521.8914
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:52, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
>> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
>> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.
>> 
>>  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
>> will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
>> proceed?
>> 
>>  And, of course, thank you for doing this!
>> 
>>            -Dave
>> 
>> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
>>> 
>>> James Corrigan
>>> Manage Operations
>>> 
>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>>> 
>>> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
>>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
>>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
>>> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>>> 
>>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>>> 
>>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>>>> this free software?
>>>> 
>>>>              -Dave
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>>> New Kensington, PA
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>> New Kensington, PA
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140_______________________________________________
> Project Home Page: http://linux-decnet.wiki.sourceforge.net/
> 
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> Lin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-decnet-user
> 

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[Zane H. <he...@ar...>]

Blasted mail lists you have to reply-all too, I just realize I only replied to Dave. :-)

I’m not sure how active this list is anymore, but I’d just like to say that I agree with Dave, this would be amazing!  Unfortunately I have zero time for such things at the moment.  :-(  But would still love to see this available!

Zane




> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:
> 
> 
>  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.
> 
>  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
> will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
> proceed?
> 
>  And, of course, thank you for doing this!
> 
>            -Dave
> 
> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
>> 
>> James Corrigan
>> Manage Operations
>> 
>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>> 
>> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
>> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>> 
>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>> 
>>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>> 
>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>>> this free software?
>>> 
>>>              -Dave
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>> New Kensington, PA
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> Linux-decnet-user mailing list
> Lin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-decnet-user

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[Larry B. <ba...@us...>]

Dave,

I haven't deployed DECnet/Linux in a year or so.  But, I am running it on a Marvell SheevaPlug PlugPC to provide a FAL-to-NFS gateway.  I'm running Arch Linux:

Linux sheeva 3.16.6-decnet-ARCH #1 PREEMPT Thu Oct 16 20:21:16 PDT 2014 armv5tel GNU/Linux

Larry Baker
US Geological Survey
650-329-5608
ba...@us...



On 18 Feb 2016, at 6:52 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:

> 
>  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.
> 
>  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
> will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
> proceed?
> 
>  And, of course, thank you for doing this!
> 
>            -Dave
> 
> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
>> 
>> James Corrigan
>> Manage Operations
>> 
>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>> 
>> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
>> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>> 
>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>> 
>>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>> 
>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>>> this free software?
>>> 
>>>              -Dave
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>> New Kensington, PA
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140
> _______________________________________________
> Project Home Page: http://linux-decnet.wiki.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Linux-decnet-user mailing list
> Lin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-decnet-user
> 

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[James C. <cor...@ma...>]

Hi Dave

Daniel Watts, Bao Claylinde, Barry Stone and I worked on this network stack for many years. One other fellow, a friend of Dan's, did the MOP implementation 

Dan and I worked in it starting in 1985. Bao joined a few years later and work the Ethernet driver with IBM engineers for AiX. I believe he also helped HP Ethernet driver as well. These drivers are well implemented everywhere now allowing the change of address to the AA-Xx-Xx DECnet address space. Bao also greatly improved the performance of our LAT

The code compiles on all modern Linux and UNIX systems as it is a user space implementation. I do need to remove the activation key code so no activation key will be required

John Montgomery who is working for Microsoft now wrote the extensive documentation. It is very comprehensive and took a good while to complete with his then fiancé!  

If folks would let me know the versions of Linux and UNIX that they need tested I will set up a development environment for those servers and confirm that it is operational. I believe we have functionality test suites as well that I will make available.

I appreciate your interest 

Jim

James Corrigan
Manage Operations

ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ

cor...@Ma...
C: +1.919.349.8767
V: +1.919.521.8914


> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:52, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:
> 
> 
>  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.
> 
>  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
> will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
> proceed?
> 
>  And, of course, thank you for doing this!
> 
>            -Dave
> 
>> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
>> 
>> James Corrigan
>> Manage Operations
>> 
>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
>> 
>> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
>> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>> 
>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>> 
>>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>> 
>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>>> this free software?
>>> 
>>>              -Dave
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>> New Kensington, PA
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[Dave M. <mc...@ne...>]

On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
> UNIX and Linux and Windows 
> 
> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
> 
> If there is interest please reach out

  I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
this free software?

               -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[Dave M. <mc...@ne...>]

  Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the
current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly
breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago.

  I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I
will do anything I can to help facilitate this.  How would you like to
proceed?

  And, of course, thank you for doing this!

            -Dave

On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
> Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 
> 
> James Corrigan
> Manage Operations
> 
> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ
> 
> cor...@Ma... <mailto:cor...@Ma...>
> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767>
> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914>
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...
> <mailto:mc...@ne...>> wrote:
> 
>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows
>>>
>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>>>
>>> If there is interest please reach out
>>
>>  I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
>> this free software?
>>
>>               -Dave
>>
>> -- 
>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>> New Kensington, PA


-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[James C. <cor...@ma...>]

Yes.  Making it readily and freely available 

James Corrigan
Manage Operations

ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ

cor...@Ma...
C: +1.919.349.8767
V: +1.919.521.8914


> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <mc...@ne...> wrote:
> 
>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote:
>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space
>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of
>> UNIX and Linux and Windows 
>> 
>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA
>> 
>> If there is interest please reach out
> 
>  I, for one, am VERY strongly interested.  Are you proposing making
> this free software?
> 
>               -Dave
> 
> -- 
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA

[Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s

[James C. <cor...@ma...>]

Hi

I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of UNIX and Linux and Windows 

My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA

If there is interest please reach out


James Corrigan
Manage Operations

ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ

cor...@Ma...
C: +1.919.349.8767
V: +1.919.521.8914

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] decnet: remove macro-local declarations

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Julia Lawall <jul...@li...>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:57:34 +0100 (CET)

>> > Would it be preferable to remove the macro entirely and inline the for
>> > loop header?
>>
>> Could you show me an example of how this would look exactly?
> 
> One possible solution is below.  I moved the initialization of the nh
> pointer inside the loop to reduce the size of the loop header.  One could
> also inline fi->fib_nh[nhsel] where it occurs, but it seemed that that
> would make quite long expressions.

Personally I like the explicit named iterator.  It is descriptive and
tells that we are walking over all of the nexthops for a route.

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] decnet: remove macro-local declarations

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Julia Lawall <jul...@li...>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 21:08:17 +0100 (CET)

> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, David Miller wrote:
> 
>> From: Julia Lawall <Jul...@li...>
>> Date: Thu,  5 Nov 2015 11:18:16 +0100
>> 
>> > Move the variable declarations from the for_nexthops macro to the
>> > surrounding context, so that it is clear where these variables are
>> > declared.  This also makes it possible to remove the endfor_nexthops macro.
>> > 
>> > This change adds new arguments to the macro for_nexthops.  They are ordered
>> > such that a pointer to the referenced object comes first, the index in the
>> > list comes next, and the list itself comes last, roughly in analogy with
>> > the list_for_each macros.
>> > 
>> > Signed-off-by: Julia Lawall <Jul...@li...>
>> > 
>> > ---
>> > 
>> > This patch takes care of a single file, where the macros are defined
>> > locally.  If the basic transformation looks OK, I will change the other
>> > files that either likewise define their own macros or use the macros in
>> > net/mpls/internal.h.  The potentially affected files are:
>>  ...
>> 
>> This looks fine to me.
> 
> Would it be preferable to remove the macro entirely and inline the for 
> loop header?

Could you show me an example of how this would look exactly?

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] decnet: remove macro-local declarations

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Julia Lawall <Jul...@li...>
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 2015 11:18:16 +0100

> Move the variable declarations from the for_nexthops macro to the
> surrounding context, so that it is clear where these variables are
> declared.  This also makes it possible to remove the endfor_nexthops macro.
> 
> This change adds new arguments to the macro for_nexthops.  They are ordered
> such that a pointer to the referenced object comes first, the index in the
> list comes next, and the list itself comes last, roughly in analogy with
> the list_for_each macros.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Julia Lawall <Jul...@li...>
> 
> ---
> 
> This patch takes care of a single file, where the macros are defined
> locally.  If the basic transformation looks OK, I will change the other
> files that either likewise define their own macros or use the macros in
> net/mpls/internal.h.  The potentially affected files are:
 ...

This looks fine to me.

Please resubmit this when net-next opens back up, which should be
shortly after -rc1.

Thanks.

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] decnet: Fix obvious o/0 typo

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Rasmus Villemoes <li...@ra...>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:02:51 +0100

> Signed-off-by: Rasmus Villemoes <li...@ra...>

Applied, thanks.

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] af_decnet: Use time_after_eq

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Himangi Saraogi <him...@gm...>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:24:40 +0530

> The functions time_before, time_before_eq, time_after, and time_after_eq
> are more robust for comparing jiffies against other values.
> 
> A simplified version of the Coccinelle semantic patch making this change
> is as follows:
> 
> @change@
> expression E1,E2,E3;
> @@
> - jiffies - E1 >= (E2*E3)
> + time_after_eq(jiffies, E1+E2*E3)
> 
> Signed-off-by: Himangi Saraogi <him...@gm...>
> Acked-by: Julia Lawall <jul...@li...>

Applied.

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] decnet: Use time_after_eq

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Himangi Saraogi <him...@gm...>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:20:09 +0530

> The functions time_before, time_before_eq, time_after, and time_after_eq
> are more robust for comparing jiffies against other values.
> 
> A simplified version of the Coccinelle semantic patch making this change
> is as follows:
> 
> @change@
> expression E1,E2;
> @@
> - (jiffies - E1) >= E2
> + time_after_eq(jiffies, E1+E2)
> 
> Signed-off-by: Himangi Saraogi <him...@gm...>
> Acked-by: Julia Lawall <jul...@li...>

Applied.

Re: [Linux-decnet-user] [PATCH] dn_dev: Use time_before

[David M. <da...@da...>]

From: Himangi Saraogi <him...@gm...>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:13:07 +0530

> The functions time_before, time_before_eq, time_after, and time_after_eq
> are more robust for comparing jiffies against other values.
> 
> A simplified version of the Coccinelle semantic patch making this change
> is as follows:
> 
> @change@
> expression E1,E2;
> @@
> 
> (
> - (jiffies - E1) < E2
> + time_before(jiffies, E1+E2)
> )
> 
> Signed-off-by: Himangi Saraogi <him...@gm...>
> Acked-by: Julia Lawall <jul...@li...>

Applied.