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Re: [Macsword-user] Personal Commentary

[Barrie S. <zen...@ze...>]

Thanks again, Manfred. Once more you've come up trumps!

On 8 May 2012, at 21:40, Manfred Bergmann wrote:

> Hi Barrie.
> 
> You basically have two options of creating personal commentaries or your own content:
> 
> 1. a personal commentary module
> This will be exchangeable with other Sword programs like Xiphos.
> You don't normally edit the rawfiles but you enter the text in Eloquent for each verse.
> Reflinks are in the form of <a href="sword://kjv/gen1.1-10</a>.
> If you leave edit mode the xml tag will be displayed as a clickable text reference.
> See attached screenshots (refliknk, reflink2).

I've been trying Personal Commentary since I did not know there was anything else. My way of working was acceptable but I was wanting to do something for which PC wasn't designed.

> 2. you create a note (Menu->File->Create Study Note)
> This will create a .rtf file. Basically this can be exchanged as well but .rtf is somewhat common to Mac OS X only.
> Here you can write any text and are not bound to verses. You also have the freedom of formating your text as you like.
> Additionally reflinks are also possible, see attached screenshot: note_reflink).

I didn't know this even existed and it seems to offer great possibilities for me. I haven't time to do anything with it for a day or two, unfortunately, but I'm really grateful.

I was about to say that neither of the documents you mentioned to me earlier mentioned Study Notes but I've just had a look at CATUG and it does. Perhaps I should stop pestering you and read this and your wiki more carefully.

Incidentally, I also tried to access your wiki and was told:

	The requested URL /wiki/Frontends:Eloquent was not found on this server.
	Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at www.crosswire.org Port 80

I thought you should know.

I'm extremely grateful for your latest help.

Barrie.

Re: [Macsword-user] Personal Commentary

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

Hi Barrie.

You basically have two options of creating personal commentaries or your own content:

1. a personal commentary module
This will be exchangeable with other Sword programs like Xiphos.
You don't normally edit the rawfiles but you enter the text in Eloquent for each verse.
Reflinks are in the form of <a href="sword://kjv/gen1.1-10</a>.
If you leave edit mode the xml tag will be displayed as a clickable text reference.
See attached screenshots (refliknk, reflink2).

2. you create a note (Menu->File->Create Study Note)
This will create a .rtf file. Basically this can be exchanged as well but .rtf is somewhat common to Mac OS X only.
Here you can write any text and are not bound to verses. You also have the freedom of formating your text as you like.
Additionally reflinks are also possible, see attached screenshot: note_reflink).



Regards,
Manfred



Am 07.05.2012 um 17:39 schrieb Barrie Stott:

> Manfred,
> 
> I've found a way to get what I want apart from details by reading http://www.ccel.org/ThML/ThML1.04.htm.
> I did the following:
> 
> 1. Get Personal Commentary and put it in gbs-stuff. This gave me a hierarchy of directories: /Users/gbs/sword-modules/gbs-stuff.swd/modules/comments/rawfiles/gbs-stuff.
> 2. I opened the Personal commentary on Jude and saw lines with Jude 1:1: down to Jude 1:25:.
> 3. With 25 verses in Jude and files 0000000 to 0000024 (plus others) in the gbs-stuff directory, I assumed that 0000000 refers to verse 1.
> 4. I added the following text to file 0000000:
> Gen2:1,John3:16<BR/>
> <scripRef>Romans viii. 27,28; x. 8-13</scripRef><BR/>
> <scripRef>Ro 5.1;Jo 1.1-2;</scripRef><BR/>
> <scripRef>Ps 23.1;Ro 5.1;Jo 1.1-2;</scripRef><BR/>
> 5. I selected a different commentary then back to gbs-stuff. I saw one line of text and 3 of references. 
> 
> Hovering over each line of references showed them in Preview. This shows that things seem to be working more or less as they should. My only questions are: 
> 
> Q1. Does Eloquent function better if other tags are used?
> Q2. At present if I edit the 0000000 file outside of Eloquent, I choose a different commentary followed by
> the gbs-stuff commentary to make the results of the edit current. Is there a shorter way?
> Q3. My default Bible is ESV and text of references seem to be of that version. Assuming that I have KJV installed, how can I get KJV verses shown?
> 
> I hope I've not caused you a lot of work.
> 
> Barrie.
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Re: [Macsword-user] Personal Commentary

[Barrie S. <zen...@ze...>]

Manfred,

I've found a way to get what I want apart from details by reading http://www.ccel.org/ThML/ThML1.04.htm.
I did the following:

1. Get Personal Commentary and put it in gbs-stuff. This gave me a hierarchy of directories: /Users/gbs/sword-modules/gbs-stuff.swd/modules/comments/rawfiles/gbs-stuff.
2. I opened the Personal commentary on Jude and saw lines with Jude 1:1: down to Jude 1:25:.
3. With 25 verses in Jude and files 0000000 to 0000024 (plus others) in the gbs-stuff directory, I assumed that 0000000 refers to verse 1.
4. I added the following text to file 0000000:
Gen2:1,John3:16<BR/>
<scripRef>Romans viii. 27,28; x. 8-13</scripRef><BR/>
<scripRef>Ro 5.1;Jo 1.1-2;</scripRef><BR/>
<scripRef>Ps 23.1;Ro 5.1;Jo 1.1-2;</scripRef><BR/>
5. I selected a different commentary then back to gbs-stuff. I saw one line of text and 3 of references. 

Hovering over each line of references showed them in Preview. This shows that things seem to be working more or less as they should. My only questions are: 

Q1. Does Eloquent function better if other tags are used?
Q2. At present if I edit the 0000000 file outside of Eloquent, I choose a different commentary followed by
the gbs-stuff commentary to make the results of the edit current. Is there a shorter way?
Q3. My default Bible is ESV and text of references seem to be of that version. Assuming that I have KJV installed, how can I get KJV verses shown?

I hope I've not caused you a lot of work.

Barrie.

Re: [Macsword-user] Refs of form 2:13 default to Genesis rather than current book

[Barrie S. <zen...@ze...>]

 
On 6 May 2012, at 14:29, Manfred Bergmann wrote:

> Hi Barrie.
> 
> 
> Am 05.05.2012 um 10:24 schrieb Barrie Stott:
> 
>> On 5 May 2012, at 08:25, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmm. It's working here. I'm using the TSK version 1.5 which I've installed from the Crosswire Beta repo.
>>> I don't know what Xiphos does, maybe they implemented some workaround but there is/was definitely a problem in the module.
>>> Checkout version 1.5 of TSK.
>> 
>> Many thanks for this; it now works. And it's taught me two things - and brought another question:
>> 
>> 1. If I am upgrading something, I need to look in all sources to see if there is an upgrade.
> 
> Yes. For some modules newer versions are available in the beta or a11v repos. a11v is mostly interesting for none KJV based verse orderings.
> 
>> 2. A reference that does not include the book is faulty. I had wrongly assumed that if no book is specified the current book should be assumed (which may be what Xiphos are doing).
> 
> Probably Xiphos does that. But in Eloquent the context is basically unknown, we don't keep state or the verse/chapter/book in which we currently are.
> That means any references must be absolute.
> 
>> I know there are problems with references in other modules: MHC, for example. Would you have any idea whom I should contact?
> 
> You could either file a bug report on our issue tracking system at Crosswire. There is a section for modules as well.
> Or you write to the sword-dev mailing list.

Thanks for these. I'll find some of the places where things didn't seem right and then get in touch with one of the places you mention.

> 
>> On an entirely different topic, I'm wading my way through the mail archive, so that I don't have to ask questions that have already been answered, and getting the distinct impression that you are the only developer working on Eloquent/MacSword. If this is so, I'm amazed at the quality of Eloquent and I'm very grateful to you for all your voluntary work. My the Lord bless you richly both in your work on Eloquent and your personal life.
> 
> That's right. I'm the only developer on Eloquent/MacSword.
> Thank you.

I can hardly believe this. Xiphos seems to have a team of developers.

No reply needed. I'll be writing again soon anyway.

Barrie.

[Macsword-user] Personal Commentary

[Barrie S. <zen...@ze...>]

I'm not sure that Personal Commentary is what I want so I'll tell you what I want to do:
1. Type a few cross references into some file that is readable by Eloquent.
2. Get the text corresponding to each reference into the Preview window by hovering over the references.

Essentially I want to create something that looks and behaves like a miniscule part of TSK. So far I've been able to get text into Personal Commentary but not references.

I'd be grateful if you could either tell me how or point to somewhere where I can find it for myself. I've looked at the 3 nt.{bsz,bzv,bzz} files in an effort to find how they are formatted but they are unreadable data files.

Barrie.

Re: [Macsword-user] Refs of form 2:13 default to Genesis rather than current book

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

Hi Barrie.


Am 05.05.2012 um 10:24 schrieb Barrie Stott:

> On 5 May 2012, at 08:25, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> 
>> Hmm. It's working here. I'm using the TSK version 1.5 which I've installed from the Crosswire Beta repo.
>> I don't know what Xiphos does, maybe they implemented some workaround but there is/was definitely a problem in the module.
>> Checkout version 1.5 of TSK.
> 
> Many thanks for this; it now works. And it's taught me two things - and brought another question:
> 
> 1. If I am upgrading something, I need to look in all sources to see if there is an upgrade.

Yes. For some modules newer versions are available in the beta or a11v repos. a11v is mostly interesting for none KJV based verse orderings.

> 2. A reference that does not include the book is faulty. I had wrongly assumed that if no book is specified the current book should be assumed (which may be what Xiphos are doing).

Probably Xiphos does that. But in Eloquent the context is basically unknown, we don't keep state or the verse/chapter/book in which we currently are.
That means any references must be absolute.

> I know there are problems with references in other modules: MHC, for example. Would you have any idea whom I should contact?

You could either file a bug report on our issue tracking system at Crosswire. There is a section for modules as well.
Or you write to the sword-dev mailing list.

> On an entirely different topic, I'm wading my way through the mail archive, so that I don't have to ask questions that have already been answered, and getting the distinct impression that you are the only developer working on Eloquent/MacSword. If this is so, I'm amazed at the quality of Eloquent and I'm very grateful to you for all your voluntary work. My the Lord bless you richly both in your work on Eloquent and your personal life.

That's right. I'm the only developer on Eloquent/MacSword.
Thank you.


Regards,
Manfred

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Re: [Macsword-user] Refs of form 2:13 default to Genesis rather than current book

[Barrie S. <zen...@ze...>]

On 5 May 2012, at 08:25, Manfred Bergmann wrote:

> Hmm. It's working here. I'm using the TSK version 1.5 which I've installed from the Crosswire Beta repo.
> I don't know what Xiphos does, maybe they implemented some workaround but there is/was definitely a problem in the module.
> Checkout version 1.5 of TSK.

Many thanks for this; it now works. And it's taught me two things - and brought another question:

1. If I am upgrading something, I need to look in all sources to see if there is an upgrade.
2. A reference that does not include the book is faulty. I had wrongly assumed that if no book is specified the current book should be assumed (which may be what Xiphos are doing).

I know there are problems with references in other modules: MHC, for example. Would you have any idea whom I should contact?

On an entirely different topic, I'm wading my way through the mail archive, so that I don't have to ask questions that have already been answered, and getting the distinct impression that you are the only developer working on Eloquent/MacSword. If this is so, I'm amazed at the quality of Eloquent and I'm very grateful to you for all your voluntary work. My the Lord bless you richly both in your work on Eloquent and your personal life.

Barrie.

Re: [Macsword-user] Refs of form 2:13 default to Genesis rather than current book

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

Hmm. It's working here. I'm using the TSK version 1.5 which I've installed from the Crosswire Beta repo.
I don't know what Xiphos does, maybe they implemented some workaround but there is/was definitely a problem in the module.
Checkout version 1.5 of TSK.


Regards,
Manfred


Am 04.05.2012 um 23:16 schrieb Barrie Stott:

> Using Commentary TSK for 2Thes 1:3 gives a list that starts: 2:13; Ro 1:8; ... The first verse shown in Preview is Gen 2:13 rather than 2Thes 2:13.
> 
> I looked in the mail archive and found a similar question from 2011-07-16 13:16 where the solution was to update TSK. I checked the Crosswire source and after refreshing the source the TSK version was the same as I had. Also I used Xiphos on 2Thes 1:3. It gave the same list of references but correctly gave 2Thes 2:13 rather than Gen 2:13. It had happened on every instance I have tried where no book is given in the reference.
> 
> I'm running Eloquent 2.3.5 on Snow Leopard. I thought it should be mentioned in case developers didn't know about it.
> 
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[Macsword-user] Refs of form 2:13 default to Genesis rather than current book

[Barrie S. <zen...@ze...>]

Using Commentary TSK for 2Thes 1:3 gives a list that starts: 2:13; Ro 1:8; ... The first verse shown in Preview is Gen 2:13 rather than 2Thes 2:13.

I looked in the mail archive and found a similar question from 2011-07-16 13:16 where the solution was to update TSK. I checked the Crosswire source and after refreshing the source the TSK version was the same as I had. Also I used Xiphos on 2Thes 1:3. It gave the same list of references but correctly gave 2Thes 2:13 rather than Gen 2:13. It had happened on every instance I have tried where no book is given in the reference.

I'm running Eloquent 2.3.5 on Snow Leopard. I thought it should be mentioned in case developers didn't know about it.

Barrie.

Re: [Macsword-user] Some initial queries about Eloquent

[Barrie S. <zen...@ze...>]

Thanks for your reply to my email.

On 2 May 2012, at 20:19, Manfred Bergmann wrote:

> Hi Barrie.
> 
> 
> Am 02.05.2012 um 11:25 schrieb Barrie Stott:
> 
>> Yesterday I downloaded Eloquent-2.3.5.dmg.zip for Snow Leopard and, after spending some time with it, have some questions.
> 
> If you are operating on Mac OS X Lion you should use Eloquent 2.4.3.

I suspect that since I am using an Imac on Snow Leopard I should use 2.3.5. I would upgrade if 2.4.3 worked on Snow Leopard. (The reason I'm investigating 2.3.5 is that a recent {2012/04/30] message from Dmitrijs Ledkovs on the gnomesword-users mailing list said that the Xiphos folk 'endorsed and recommended' Eloquent and that *2.3* should be used for 32 bit Intel or PowerPC Macs. This was in answer to someone who asked: Please tell me where I can find a 32 bit Mac OS version of Xiphos.)

>> 1. Is there any documentation apart from Sword's 'Frontends:Eloquent' and Catgut's offering that is mentioned at the end of the aforementioned Sword document?
> 
> Not really, except some forum posts here:
> http://www.crosswire.org/forums/mvnforum/index

I glanced there but not much seemed to be happening which is why I sent an email.

>> 2. In particular, is the only reliable way to view a (cross-)reference by hovering over it? On one occasion I obtained a black window called Preview that showed me one but I don't know how I did it. And I was unable to change it to show me another.
> 
> The "Preview-Panel" ist still there. Have a look in the "Window" main menu. You can also click on cross-refs and the scripture references will open in a new window or tab. 

I apologize for this. I looked but found nothing; put it down to my age :-)

>> 2. How can module sources other than Crosswire be installed? I'm thinking of things like Crosswire Beta and Xiphos that I had available when I used Xiphos.
> 
> You can use the module installer. It also has the Xiphos, Crosswire Beta and a11n repositories.

When I started with Eloquent I downloaded ESV only. Then I read the Catug wiki and found I could change the directory where modules sit by use of a symbolic link. This suited me because I already have several modules for use with Xiphos (obtained via VirtualBox and Xubuntu). After creating the slink, Eloquent started crashing and I thought it was because the way modules were dealt with by Eloquent was different from the way used by Xiphos. This was when I wrote my email. I continued to play with Eloquent and now think think that the crashes were due to finger trouble since I've not had another crash since.

You'll probably get more questions from me in the future. For now though I'm very pleasantly surprised with Eloquent's facilities and very grateful for your help.

Barrie.

Re: [Macsword-user] Some initial queries about Eloquent

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

Hi Barrie.


Am 02.05.2012 um 11:25 schrieb Barrie Stott:

> Yesterday I downloaded Eloquent-2.3.5.dmg.zip for Snow Leopard and, after spending some time with it, have some questions.

If you are operating on Mac OS X Lion you should use Eloquent 2.4.3.

> 1. Is there any documentation apart from Sword's 'Frontends:Eloquent' and Catgut's offering that is mentioned at the end of the aforementioned Sword document?

Not really, except some forum posts here:
http://www.crosswire.org/forums/mvnforum/index

> 2. In particular, is the only reliable way to view a (cross-)reference by hovering over it? On one occasion I obtained a black window called Preview that showed me one but I don't know how I did it. And I was unable to change it to show me another.

The "Preview-Panel" ist still there. Have a look in the "Window" main menu. You can also click on cross-refs and the scripture references will open in a new window or tab. 

> 2. How can module sources other than Crosswire be installed? I'm thinking of things like Crosswire Beta and Xiphos that I had available when I used Xiphos.

You can use the module installer. It also has the Xiphos, Crosswire Beta and a11n repositories.


Regards,
Manfred


> 
> Barrie.

[Macsword-user] Some initial queries about Eloquent

[Barrie S. <zen...@ze...>]

Yesterday I downloaded Eloquent-2.3.5.dmg.zip for Snow Leopard and, after spending some time with it, have some questions.

1. Is there any documentation apart from Sword's 'Frontends:Eloquent' and Catgut's offering that is mentioned at the end of the aforementioned Sword document?

2. In particular, is the only reliable way to view a (cross-)reference by hovering over it? On one occasion I obtained a black window called Preview that showed me one but I don't know how I did it. And I was unable to change it to show me another.

2. How can module sources other than Crosswire be installed? I'm thinking of things like Crosswire Beta and Xiphos that I had available when I used Xiphos.

Barrie.

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[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

Well. Eloquent is the new name of the app since version 2.3.0. It is thesame app except some new enhancements and fixes that were introduced in then 2.3 release. 
So, I would use that version.


Manfred

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> I have the older MacSword version 2.2.4. My operating system is OSX 10.6.8. Should I switch over to "Eloquent"?
> 
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> 
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Re: [Macsword-user] Syriac Font Not Displaying

[James M. <jdm...@gm...>]

Ok.  Thanks Manfred for all you help.

James


On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:

> You should possibly make the people at Crosswire aware about this. I dont what the source was of this module.
> Or, you create a full bible version of this text as Sword module if the text is public domain. 
> 
> Manfred
> 
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> 
> Am 20.01.2012 um 15:02 schrieb James Moore <jdm...@gm...>:
> 
>> Hi Manfred.  No, the Peshitta is the Syriac version of the whole Bible: OT, Apocryphal books, and NT.  You are right, the site you found only has the NT available online.  At leas about 5 years ago there were some errors in that site's text.  They may now be corrected, but beware.
>> 
>> The only full version of the OT free in electronic form on the internet is:
>> http://cal.huc.edu/   > syriac 
>> 
>> It appears that your Peshitta module just does not include the OT or Apocryphal books, which is ok though it would be nice if the OT was part of it.  The title is misleading that's all.  It probably should be Peshitta NT.  
>> 
>> Thanks for still pursuing this!
>> 
>> 
>> James
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:32 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>> 
>>> According to this information:
>>> http://www.peshitta.org/
>>> 
>>> The Peshitta is only a New Testament.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Manfred
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 18.01.2012 um 20:16 schrieb Manfred Bergmann:
>>> 
>>>> I can replicate the problem.
>>>> I'll see If I can find a solution.
>>>> 
>>>> Sure you can create your own modules.
>>>> Please see our wiki, especially the "Module Development" section.
>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Manfred
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 15.01.2012 um 17:35 schrieb James Moore:
>>>> 
>>>>> I can't get the Peshitta module to display a text in the OT.  I have a Syriac unicode font and many Syriac fonts on my computer.  I've played with different "module fonts" in preferences, but I can't get the font to display in the OT.  Perhaps it's just not part of the module?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have another question.  Is there a way to create one's own modules?  Creating a personal commentary module is easy, but let's say I wanted to create my own text of a pseudepigraphal book, like 4 Edras.  Is there any way to do that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> James
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don't know.
>>>>>> If you give me some more details I will have a closer look.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 15.01.2012 um 00:22 schrieb James Moore:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why will the Syriac fonts not display?
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Re: [Macsword-user] Syriac Font Not Displaying

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

You should possibly make the people at Crosswire aware about this. I dont what the source was of this module.
Or, you create a full bible version of this text as Sword module if the text is public domain. 

Manfred

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Am 20.01.2012 um 15:02 schrieb James Moore <jdm...@gm...>:

> Hi Manfred.  No, the Peshitta is the Syriac version of the whole Bible: OT, Apocryphal books, and NT.  You are right, the site you found only has the NT available online.  At leas about 5 years ago there were some errors in that site's text.  They may now be corrected, but beware.
> 
> The only full version of the OT free in electronic form on the internet is:
> http://cal.huc.edu/   > syriac 
> 
> It appears that your Peshitta module just does not include the OT or Apocryphal books, which is ok though it would be nice if the OT was part of it.  The title is misleading that's all.  It probably should be Peshitta NT.  
> 
> Thanks for still pursuing this!
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:32 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> 
>> According to this information:
>> http://www.peshitta.org/
>> 
>> The Peshitta is only a New Testament.
>> 
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> 
>> Am 18.01.2012 um 20:16 schrieb Manfred Bergmann:
>> 
>>> I can replicate the problem.
>>> I'll see If I can find a solution.
>>> 
>>> Sure you can create your own modules.
>>> Please see our wiki, especially the "Module Development" section.
>>> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Manfred
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 15.01.2012 um 17:35 schrieb James Moore:
>>> 
>>>> I can't get the Peshitta module to display a text in the OT.  I have a Syriac unicode font and many Syriac fonts on my computer.  I've played with different "module fonts" in preferences, but I can't get the font to display in the OT.  Perhaps it's just not part of the module?
>>>> 
>>>> I have another question.  Is there a way to create one's own modules?  Creating a personal commentary module is easy, but let's say I wanted to create my own text of a pseudepigraphal book, like 4 Edras.  Is there any way to do that?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your time.
>>>> 
>>>> James
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Don't know.
>>>>> If you give me some more details I will have a closer look.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Manfred
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 15.01.2012 um 00:22 schrieb James Moore:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why will the Syriac fonts not display?
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Re: [Macsword-user] Syriac Font Not Displaying

[James M. <jdm...@gm...>]

Hi Manfred.  No, the Peshitta is the Syriac version of the whole Bible: OT, Apocryphal books, and NT.  You are right, the site you found only has the NT available online.  At leas about 5 years ago there were some errors in that site's text.  They may now be corrected, but beware.

The only full version of the OT free in electronic form on the internet is:
http://cal.huc.edu/   > syriac 

It appears that your Peshitta module just does not include the OT or Apocryphal books, which is ok though it would be nice if the OT was part of it.  The title is misleading that's all.  It probably should be Peshitta NT.  

Thanks for still pursuing this!


James



On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:32 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:

> According to this information:
> http://www.peshitta.org/
> 
> The Peshitta is only a New Testament.
> 
> 
> Manfred
> 
> 
> Am 18.01.2012 um 20:16 schrieb Manfred Bergmann:
> 
>> I can replicate the problem.
>> I'll see If I can find a solution.
>> 
>> Sure you can create your own modules.
>> Please see our wiki, especially the "Module Development" section.
>> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Main_Page
>> 
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> 
>> Am 15.01.2012 um 17:35 schrieb James Moore:
>> 
>>> I can't get the Peshitta module to display a text in the OT.  I have a Syriac unicode font and many Syriac fonts on my computer.  I've played with different "module fonts" in preferences, but I can't get the font to display in the OT.  Perhaps it's just not part of the module?
>>> 
>>> I have another question.  Is there a way to create one's own modules?  Creating a personal commentary module is easy, but let's say I wanted to create my own text of a pseudepigraphal book, like 4 Edras.  Is there any way to do that?
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your time.
>>> 
>>> James
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Don't know.
>>>> If you give me some more details I will have a closer look.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Manfred
>>>> 
>>>> Am 15.01.2012 um 00:22 schrieb James Moore:
>>>> 
>>>>> Why will the Syriac fonts not display?
>>>>> 
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Re: [Macsword-user] Syriac Font Not Displaying

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

According to this information:
http://www.peshitta.org/

The Peshitta is only a New Testament.


Manfred


Am 18.01.2012 um 20:16 schrieb Manfred Bergmann:

> I can replicate the problem.
> I'll see If I can find a solution.
> 
> Sure you can create your own modules.
> Please see our wiki, especially the "Module Development" section.
> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Main_Page
> 
> 
> Manfred
> 
> 
> Am 15.01.2012 um 17:35 schrieb James Moore:
> 
>> I can't get the Peshitta module to display a text in the OT.  I have a Syriac unicode font and many Syriac fonts on my computer.  I've played with different "module fonts" in preferences, but I can't get the font to display in the OT.  Perhaps it's just not part of the module?
>> 
>> I have another question.  Is there a way to create one's own modules?  Creating a personal commentary module is easy, but let's say I wanted to create my own text of a pseudepigraphal book, like 4 Edras.  Is there any way to do that?
>> 
>> Thank you for your time.
>> 
>> James
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>> 
>>> Don't know.
>>> If you give me some more details I will have a closer look.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Manfred
>>> 
>>> Am 15.01.2012 um 00:22 schrieb James Moore:
>>> 
>>>> Why will the Syriac fonts not display?
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [Macsword-user] Syriac Font Not Displaying

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

I can replicate the problem.
I'll see If I can find a solution.

Sure you can create your own modules.
Please see our wiki, especially the "Module Development" section.
http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Main_Page


Manfred


Am 15.01.2012 um 17:35 schrieb James Moore:

> I can't get the Peshitta module to display a text in the OT.  I have a Syriac unicode font and many Syriac fonts on my computer.  I've played with different "module fonts" in preferences, but I can't get the font to display in the OT.  Perhaps it's just not part of the module?
> 
> I have another question.  Is there a way to create one's own modules?  Creating a personal commentary module is easy, but let's say I wanted to create my own text of a pseudepigraphal book, like 4 Edras.  Is there any way to do that?
> 
> Thank you for your time.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> 
>> Don't know.
>> If you give me some more details I will have a closer look.
>> 
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> Am 15.01.2012 um 00:22 schrieb James Moore:
>> 
>>> Why will the Syriac fonts not display?
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> Mar 27 - Feb 2
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Re: [Macsword-user] Syriac Font Not Displaying

[James M. <jdm...@gm...>]

I can't get the Peshitta module to display a text in the OT.  I have a Syriac unicode font and many Syriac fonts on my computer.  I've played with different "module fonts" in preferences, but I can't get the font to display in the OT.  Perhaps it's just not part of the module?

I have another question.  Is there a way to create one's own modules?  Creating a personal commentary module is easy, but let's say I wanted to create my own text of a pseudepigraphal book, like 4 Edras.  Is there any way to do that?

Thank you for your time.

James



On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:

> Don't know.
> If you give me some more details I will have a closer look.
> 
> 
> Manfred
> 
> Am 15.01.2012 um 00:22 schrieb James Moore:
> 
>> Why will the Syriac fonts not display?
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [Macsword-user] Syriac Font Not Displaying

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

Don't know.
If you give me some more details I will have a closer look.


Manfred

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[Macsword-user] Syriac Font Not Displaying

[James M. <jdm...@gm...>]

Why will the Syriac fonts not display?

[Macsword-user] Suggestion for navigation buttons

[David V. <ma...@gm...>]

Hello

I wanted to make a suggestion. Right now on the sidebar for navigation
there are the buttons for chapter and book navigation. They click but
don't do anything. Only the arrows do anything to go back and forward,
I think it would be good if one could add functionality to the
"chapter" and "book" buttons as well. ie
1. "Chapter" button: display the whole chapter when you have just 1 or
a few verses displaying.
2. "Book" button: Perhaps show the first chapter of the book.

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Re: [Macsword-user] Eloquent Features Requested

[Manfred B. <man...@gm...>]

Hello Jason.

Thank you for your mail.
I will definitely consider your feature requests.


God bless,
Manfred


Am 01.08.2011 um 11:39 schrieb Agent J:

> Greetings,
> 
> Thank you for all you do with the Eloquent program. I've used it for several years (since it was MacSword - not sure why the name change), & I prefer it to many of the expensive Mac Bible programs out there. In fact, I've tried them all, even the ridiculously overpriced Accordance. None of them beat the simplicity & functionality of Eloquent.
> 
> There are 2 features that I would like to request. They both involve the use of the Strongs numbers & being able to see the underlying Greek or Hebrew words.
> 
> First - When one does a word search in English & the result shows the word or words searched for show up in say ... 39 results (that being the number of verses the word appears in, NOT the number of times the word appears). It would be nice to be able to click on the Mod Options Menu and then on Show Strong's Numbers so we could see them all compared in that window. For instance - say you were searching for the word Love - with the Strongs numbers visible in results you could run the mouse over the numbers & see all the different words that appear as Love in English (phillio, eros, agape, etc). This feature would be a tremendous asset to the program, as often multiple words are translated in different ways to our English.
> 
> Second - A more precise method of counting or tabulating & listing the search results would be excellent. Specifically, when one does a word search, instead of just getting the number of verses the word appears in, it would be nice to the exact number of times the word appears, with the count appearing down the left side of the results column. That way one could  quickly scroll down to the 33rd time the word appeared (or whichever number you sought), then hopefully with the above feature, you could also see the underlying Greek or Hebrew word.
> 
> The reason I ask for these features, is that we've discovered there are many other Divine features of the Scriptures which become apparent with the numbers of times original words appear, where they appear,  & their relation to other words. At this time, this type of study is rather difficult with Eloquent, requiring much more time & counting.
> 
> Please consider these features for your next upgrade.
> 
> God bless you in this, His tremendous work.
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Macsword-user] Latest update Intel only?

[David V. <ma...@gm...>]

Hello

I re-downloaded and it worked fine this time. Thanks.

David

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Manfred Bergmann
<man...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Please re-download version 2.3.5 from Sourceforge or the web page.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Manfred
>

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