Re: [Assp-user] Use of AI to detect spam

[Alexandre A. <ada...@gm...>]

Hi Thomas,

Em seg., 7 de abr. de 2025 às 05:52, Thomas Eckardt <
tho...@th...> escreveu:

> You can create a Plugin to do this.
> Currently there are no plans to integrate an external AI interface -
> because this would lead into very high costs (several 100.000 $US per year
> for a medium assp system). If I remember right, this was already discussed
> here or in  the "ASSP development mailing list" <
> ass...@li...>.
>
> I'm an long time ASSP user (since 1.0 ages). I use all great features of
ASSP (HMM/Bayes, PB, RE, DKIM/SPF, etc) and I monitor RebuildDB regularly.
I have 8 ASSP instances and I notice that in the last year, I'm losing the
spam battle.
To make a POC, I installed LMStudio with some models locally(i.e. Deepseek)
to not depend of cloud nor expose my data to the Internet. Get some
messages SPAM that pass in ASSP tests and
try to analyze in AI, having success.
I will study how plugins work to try to do something.


> How ever, any related suggestion is welcome.
>
> The following problems needs to be solved:
>
> - high costs
> - how to instantly correct badly learned mails - spam <-> ham - without
> building complete training sets every time
>
> And .... would the spam/ham content detection rate of an external AI be
> better than the detetion rate of the internal HMM (AI)?
>
> A very good maintained and uptodate assp system can reach a content (word
> based) detection correctness of 99% and more. Is the effort of an external
> AI integation worth the <1%? Assuming the detection rate of the external AI
> would be 100%!
>
>
Like I said before, I don't have this extreme success rate anymore. Can you
give me some tips ?
For example: if I had a SPAM message and moved it to NewManuallyAdded to
process immediately (or report as usual to RebuildDB process at night), if
I try to mail analyze this message after I will not get a SPAM.
In the past, this was normal behaviour.
Can my SPAM/NOTSPAM/ERRORS folders be messing with HMM/Bayes classifiers ?

Best regards and thanks again to maintain this awesome tool,

Alexandre




>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> Von:        "Alexandre Arruda" <ada...@gm...>
> An:        "For Users of ASSP" <ass...@li...>
> Datum:        05.04.2025 16:13
> Betreff:        [Assp-user] Use of AI to detect spam
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> There is a way to integrate ASSP with an AI model like GPT or Deepsek to
> analyze messages?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Alexandre _______________________________________________
> Assp-user mailing list
> Ass...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Assp-user mailing list
> Ass...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
>


-- 
---
Sent with Gmail for Sidekick Browser