reikred

I have included two small .png image files that illustrates the problem. They are just 2kB each so hopefully that is okay with the mailing list RR On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 7:04 AM Reik Reid reikred@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, When I recently updated ubuntu from 22 to 24, the visual of the vtwm icon managers changed drastically, adding a lot more space inside and between the entries, and possibly changing the font. The net result was impractical (size increase), and visually bothersome, to the point...

Hi folks, When I recently updated ubuntu from 22 to 24, the visual of the vtwm icon managers changed drastically, adding a lot more space inside and between the entries, and possibly changing the font. The net result was impractical (size increase), and visually bothersome, to the point where I went back to ubuntu22. Has anyone else observed this? The pitch of each icon manager entry changed from ~7mm to ~10mm on my display. I should mention that I am using the exact same compiled binary /usr/local/bin/vtwm...

Thanks, Callum, for being so helpful and understanding. I'll post the topic on vtwm-hackers tomorrow when I have time. I just made another blunder doing some edits to improve the clarity of the question, and of course that generated more posts and more emails. Ugh. I'll just stop now.

I can't even tell whether what I run is X or Wayland or xwayland. This is how I start X (?) from the "console", no display manager involved, I think. I am specifically running init 3 on the kernel command line to prevent gnome from starting. xinit xterm -- vt2 -depth 24 > & ~/logfiles/log.X11 & I know that xwayland exists (some packages are installed) on my ubuntu system, but not sure if it is being used. I tried some of the suggestions for determining whether wayland, using https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/202891/how-to-know-whether-wayland-or-x11-is-being-used...

I can't even tell whether what I run is Xorg or Wayland or xwayland. The below is how I start Xorg (?) from the "console", no display manager involved, I think. I am specifically running init 3 on the kernel command line to prevent gnome from starting. xinit xterm -- vt2 -depth 24 > & ~/logfiles/log.X11 & I know that xwayland exists (some packages are installed) on my ubuntu system, but not sure if it is being used. I tried some of the suggestions for determining whether wayland is active, using...

I can't even tell whether what I run is X or Wayland or xwayland. The below is how I start X (?) from the "console", no display manager involved, I think. I am specifically running init 3 on the kernel command line to prevent gnome from starting. xinit xterm -- vt2 -depth 24 > & ~/logfiles/log.X11 & I know that xwayland exists (some packages are installed) on my ubuntu system, but not sure if it is being used. I tried some of the suggestions for determining whether wayland is active, using https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/202891/how-to-know-whether-wayland-or-x11-is-being-used...

I can't even tell whether what I run is X or Wayland or xwayland. The below is how I start X (?) from the "console", no display manager involved, I think. I am specifically running init 3 on the kernel command line to prevent gnome from starting. xinit xterm -- vt2 -depth 24 > & ~/logfiles/log.X11 & I know that xwayland exists (some packages are installed) on my ubuntu system, but not sure if it is being used. I tried some of the suggestions for determining whether wayland, using https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/202891/how-to-know-whether-wayland-or-x11-is-being-used...

I can't even tell whether what I run is X or Wayland or xwayland. This is how I start X (?) from the "console", no display manager involved, I think. I am specifically running init 3 on the kernel command line to prevent gnome from starting. xinit xterm -- vt2 -depth 24 > & ~/logfiles/log.X11 & I know that xwayland exists (some packages are installed) on my ubuntu system, but not sure if it is being used. I tried some of the suggestions for determining whether wayland, using https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/202891/how-to-know-whether-wayland-or-x11-is-being-used...