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From: John S. <jo...@me...> - 2005-10-19 18:02:38
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On Oct 12, 2005, at 10:09 PM, Brian Chu wrote: > Are any of you guys a published writer? Hi Brian, Sorry I didn't reply sooner (my spam filter tried to swallow your email, probably because of the Yahoo boilerplate at the bottom). I did have a computer book published a few years back by Addison- Wesley, but it was kind of an obscure topic (GNOME development on UNIX) and didn't really enjoy the success I'd hoped. I have a bunch of old short stories and a few screenplays I've started, but none of them is to the point of submitting anywhere. No, actually I did submit a couple short stories to a contest many many years ago, back in high school. However to be honest, those weren't to the point of submitting either. (c: What sort of things do you work on? Could I ask what software you typically use for writing? Anyone else? John -- John R. Sheets http://umber.sourceforge.net http://writersforge.sourceforge.net |
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2005-03-09 15:13:45
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Purvis Robert wrote: > Hi, > > I've been looking for some open source story outlining software and > came across Writers Forge. But there doesn't seem to be a working > program yet. Am I wrong here, or is it still under development? > > Can anyone suggest an alternative that is up and running? > Hi Rob, You're right, development on writersforge has stalled over the past couple years (!) as I've focused on other projects. However, the time is ripe for me to dive back into it. The tools have gotten much better in the meantime and I feel much more confident that they won't let me down (as they did last time). Sorry, I don't know offhand of any good open source (or otherwise free, no strings attached) story editors. The lack of any is what inspired me to start this project. (c: If you find any, please let me know. Stay tuned. I'll keep the lists informed of any progress. John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://umber.sourceforge.net http://writersforge.sourceforge.net |
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From: Purvis R. <rob...@nh...> - 2005-03-09 12:56:55
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Hi, I've been looking for some open source story outlining software and came across Writers Forge. But there doesn't seem to be a working program yet. Am I wrong here, or is it still under development? Can anyone suggest an alternative that is up and running? Rob ------------------------------- Robert Purvis e-mail: rob...@nh... This e-mail is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended = recipient please accept our apologies; please do not disclose, copy or = distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on = its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. = Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. = Thank you for your co-operation. |
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From: <Je...@In...> - 2003-05-23 00:40:21
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Hi John, Thank you for writing me back. I came across your project and just found it to be interesting. As one of the owners of the Writers Store (www.writersstore.com) I have been searching out new opportunities for our company. One of which is to develop our own of writing software, not a formatter like Final Draft or Movie Magic Screenwriter. As you project continues please keep me informed. Best Regards, Jesse Douma The Writers Store (r) 2040 Westwood Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90025 V > 310 441-5151 ext.11 F > 310 441-0944 http://WritersStore.com -----Original Message----- From: wri...@li... [mailto:wri...@li...]On Behalf Of John R. Sheets Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 12:30 PM To: wri...@li... Subject: Re: [Writersforge-plot] Where and What Je...@In... wrote: > Hi, > I am interested in where you are going with this project and what you hope > the final result to be. Are the members of the programming team currently > working in the screenwriting or story development software market or is this > being created out of love for the written word? Hi Jesse, The Writer's Forge project has a pretty broad scope of "tools to help people create things". This includes both software developers (tools to help create software) and authors (tools to help write novels, screenplays, etc.). The focus so far has been on the first group of "writers", since the first set of (software) tools can be used to create the second group of (authoring) tools. Since I'm currently the only active developer (always looking for more!), progress has been steady but slow. When I first started working on Writer's Forge, I put together a very simple Java screenwriting application (formerly called ScreenForge, but now called Chalice). Development on Chalice has slowed to a halt over the past half year, but I expect it to start picking up this summer. My plans for Chalice have changed quite a bit since its original conception. Rather than yet another word processor application, I'd like to create a community-oriented application for writing, collaborating, and revising stories in real-time. Imagine FinalDraft (http://www.finaldraft.com/) with integrated support for the TriggerStreet (http://www.triggerstreet.com) screenwriting web site. You could write a scene and post it to the community for review, then browse through and critique submissions from other people. You could control who sees your submissions, to cut down on unsolicited reviews or to only collaborate with your immediate co-authors. That's the larger picture. Chalice is still in its early design stages, and as such, I'm wide open to suggestions. Does this sound like something you would find useful? Are there other directions you'd like to see Chalice or Writer's Forge in general go? John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://writersforge.sourceforge.net http://www.metacasa.com ------------------------------------------------------- Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo, June 4-6, 2003, Santa Clara The only event dedicated to issues related to Linux enterprise solutions www.enterpriselinuxforum.com _______________________________________________ Writersforge-plot mailing list Wri...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/writersforge-plot |
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2003-05-16 19:29:51
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Je...@In... wrote: > Hi, > I am interested in where you are going with this project and what you hope > the final result to be. Are the members of the programming team currently > working in the screenwriting or story development software market or is this > being created out of love for the written word? Hi Jesse, The Writer's Forge project has a pretty broad scope of "tools to help people create things". This includes both software developers (tools to help create software) and authors (tools to help write novels, screenplays, etc.). The focus so far has been on the first group of "writers", since the first set of (software) tools can be used to create the second group of (authoring) tools. Since I'm currently the only active developer (always looking for more!), progress has been steady but slow. When I first started working on Writer's Forge, I put together a very simple Java screenwriting application (formerly called ScreenForge, but now called Chalice). Development on Chalice has slowed to a halt over the past half year, but I expect it to start picking up this summer. My plans for Chalice have changed quite a bit since its original conception. Rather than yet another word processor application, I'd like to create a community-oriented application for writing, collaborating, and revising stories in real-time. Imagine FinalDraft (http://www.finaldraft.com/) with integrated support for the TriggerStreet (http://www.triggerstreet.com) screenwriting web site. You could write a scene and post it to the community for review, then browse through and critique submissions from other people. You could control who sees your submissions, to cut down on unsolicited reviews or to only collaborate with your immediate co-authors. That's the larger picture. Chalice is still in its early design stages, and as such, I'm wide open to suggestions. Does this sound like something you would find useful? Are there other directions you'd like to see Chalice or Writer's Forge in general go? John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://writersforge.sourceforge.net http://www.metacasa.com |
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From: <Je...@In...> - 2003-05-16 16:36:32
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Hi, I am interested in where you are going with this project and what you hope the final result to be. Are the members of the programming team currently working in the screenwriting or story development software market or is this being created out of love for the written word? Best, Jesse |
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2003-03-28 20:59:49
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To combat the doldrums of lackluster naming schemes and bring more clarity and character to the project, the Writer's Forge project is proud to announce new titles for three of its four sub-projects. The RenderForge PDF generating library is now Catalan (after a style of blacksmith forges); the ScriptForge writer's GUI is now Chalice; and the (mostly vaporware) CodeZen code generation project is now Crucible. Bellows is still Bellows, of course. The names seem to ring with more character, and hopefully the changes won't cause too much confusion. The changes also represent a new lease on life for the projects, and will mark new directions in development, particularly for Chalice. The old releases will still be available under their old names, but will appear under the new project names. John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://writersforge.sourceforge.net http://www.metacasa.com |
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2003-03-24 00:04:45
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Kat McClure wrote: > It wasn't as easy I thought, but I got the message out. I clicked on > all those developers, and sent them all a message (the same message). > See below... > >> Hi folks. I looked on Sourceforge for writer programs and found a >> bunch, but most weren't out of the planning stage. I did find one, >> Writer's Forge, that has the backend started. I'm a fiction writer, >> not a programmer, and I'm contacting all the people listed as >> developers for a writing project on the behalf of WF's author, cuz >> he asked me too. If you're serious about a program for writers and >> you don't have any code yet, or even if you do, get together and >> cooperate. That's what Open Source is all about. =) > > Hope they aren't mad I spammed them. =) Thanks for taking the initiative! > By the way, I'm also involved in the Freemind community. It's a cool > freeform brainstorm tool that is good for organizing ideas. It's > pretty functional, but the new developer wants to find a successor. Cool, looks interesting. I'll check it out. John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://writersforge.sourceforge.net http://www.metacasa.com |
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From: Kat M. <kmc...@ml...> - 2003-03-23 06:02:01
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> > >Kat McClure wrote: > >>It's possible that they may have good ideas, and coding ability, but >>they lacked the coordination or momentum to get the basement started. >> You've got the start of the foundation, maybe that could get things >>rolling. I suppose I can do a mass mail to all the peeps involved in >>these projects and point them at your direction. Perhaps they will be >>inspired by your progress. >> >Sure, I'd welcome new blood. I tend to prefer to work on support >libraries and backends more than front ends, so it'd be nice to have >other people around, working on the GUI and such. > >Thanks, >John > It wasn't as easy I thought, but I got the message out. I clicked on all those developers, and sent them all a message (the same message). See below... > Hi folks. I looked on Sourceforge for writer programs and found a > bunch, but most weren't out of the planning stage. I did find one, > Writer's Forge, that has the backend started. I'm a fiction writer, > not a programmer, and I'm contacting all the people listed as > developers for a writing project on the behalf of WF's author, cuz he > asked me too. If you're serious about a program for writers and you > don't have any code yet, or even if you do, get together and > cooperate. That's what Open Source is all about. =) Hope they aren't mad I spammed them. =) By the way, I'm also involved in the Freemind community. It's a cool freeform brainstorm tool that is good for organizing ideas. It's pretty functional, but the new developer wants to find a successor. |
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2003-03-22 16:45:23
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Kat McClure wrote: > It's possible that they may have good ideas, and coding ability, but > they lacked the coordination or momentum to get the basement started. > You've got the start of the foundation, maybe that could get things > rolling. I suppose I can do a mass mail to all the peeps involved in > these projects and point them at your direction. Perhaps they will be > inspired by your progress. Sure, I'd welcome new blood. I tend to prefer to work on support libraries and backends more than front ends, so it'd be nice to have other people around, working on the GUI and such. Thanks, John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://writersforge.sourceforge.net http://www.metacasa.com |
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From: Kat M. <kmc...@ml...> - 2003-03-21 21:28:48
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> > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:05:35 -0600 >From: "John R. Sheets" <jo...@me...> >To: wri...@li... >Subject: Re: [Writersforge-plot] Writer's forge. >Reply-To: wri...@li... > >Hi Kat, > >Kat McClure wrote: > >>I'm a fiction writer, and your documentation is eye-crossing, at >>present. It reads like code... =) I see a lot about XML, but not >>alot about opening it and USING it. >> >Yep, you're right. That's because presently, documentation only exists >for the lower level programmer tools and support libraries. The >writer's GUI interface is currently on hold, due to limitations in the >documentation of (and thus my understanding of) the official Java >libraries for creating text editors. It's painfully arcane once you >step outside the narrow comfortable bounds of their default editor. My >first release of ScriptForge (for screenwriting) used this default >editor, but it wouldn't allow me to store non-text data, like >annotations, character info, revisions, and such. So I started looking >into loading it as an XML document. The text editor libraries seemed to >be designed to do this sort of thing, but in practice it soon turned >into me having to reimplement half of *their* editor from scratch. > >I never did get it working beyond the current barely functional state. > From there, I got interested in better ways to design the back end, >auto-generating as much as possible. I've also been able to develop >some sub-projects through my day job (RenderForge PDF generator and >Bellows XML library). That's why those have been getting the most focus >lately, and not the actual writing tools. I would like to get back into >the end user applications soon. They may take an entirely different >direction, though. I've been thinking about interactive online writer's >collaboration, supporting real-time co-editing, revisioning, and a web >interface. Also hot on the list is some sort of trust metrics or voting >system to provide general and specific feedback for authors who decide >to post their stories online. > Fair enough. Gotta get the basement done before you start framing the building. =) >>I have a couple of suggestions. First of all, you asked how to >>distinguish writing description from dialog. I don't have any other >>softwares, but I just type " when I want to start dialog. I suppose >>you could trigger off a use of double quotes. CTRL-d for dialog and >>CTRL-p for paragraph seems a little much. If the sentance starts with >>a double quote, you can assume it's dialog, if it doesn't, it isn't. >> >Are you talking about screenwriting? In screenwriting, you don't really >use double quotes. In normal prose writing, I would expect paragraphs >to work just like normal word processors, with the <return> key. The >problem is that with screenwriting, you have different types of >paragraphs. The dialogue is indented differently from descriptive >paragraphs, and the two are never intermixed. > Again, a good point. I write SF prose, not a screen play. Perhaps you can make a simpler interface for prose writing. >>Second. Not to step on your toes or anything, but I thought the idea >>of open source was to combine programing talents and make something >>useful for everybody. Do a search for WRITER in sourceforge. I >>discovered a bunch of projects that want to do what you are doing, >>from writer's helpers, to collaborative writers, to e-book makers >>(that's the extraction to PDF thing) but they haven't got off the >>ground yet. Talk to them. Work with them. Collaborate. If I'm >>outta line, say so. It won't hurt my feelings. Just trying to help. >> >No, you're right. Before starting Writer's Forge, I did a survey of the >current tools, and none of them were open enough and had the >focus/programming language/activity I wanted to see. Or were vaporware. > (c: > Yeah, I noticed none of them had code yet. >>Off the top of my head, I think these might be candidates... All on >>sourceforge. Might be more. >>CTW - Cooperative Text Writer <http://sourceforge.net/projects/ctw/> >> >> Wordsmyth <http://sourceforge.net/projects/wordsmyth/> writing aid > >Both of these look like web-only versions of online collaboration, >similar to, but much simpler than my goals. Unfortunately, they have no >code, and their mailing lists have had no traffic. Each over a year and >a half old. I'm guessing they are abandoned. > It's possible that they may have good ideas, and coding ability, but they lacked the coordination or momentum to get the basement started. You've got the start of the foundation, maybe that could get things rolling. I suppose I can do a mass mail to all the peeps involved in these projects and point them at your direction. Perhaps they will be inspired by your progress. >>OpenWriter <http://sourceforge.net/projects/openwriter/> coop writing. >>PlotWeaver <http://sourceforge.net/projects/plotweaver1/> writing aid >>Univerzek <http://sourceforge.net/projects/univerzek/> writing aid >>FreeBook ebook reader/writer >><http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-ebook/>SP Writer >><http://sourceforge.net/projects/spwriter/> writing aid >> >Looks like none of these have any code released either. I've noticed >that there are quite a few (perhaps most?) SourceForge projects that >never go anywhere. It seems open source projects are like stories: >everyone's got an idea, but only a small percentage actually get >written. (c: On one hand, I should try to contact them, as you >suggest, to combine efforts. However, I do tend to be wary about these >empty projects. If they aren't motivated enough to work on their own >project, what are the chances they'll be productive in someone else's >project? > >The SP Writer project seems to have a lot in common with Writer's Forge, >and at least has a web site. I wonder if he's noticed WF at all? Maybe >I'll at least contact him. (Or you could?) > >Thanks for your comments! Let me know if you come across other similar >projects. And feel free to open discussion on just about any >writer-related topics here. I always try to cultivate community, but >that's hard when no one is posting. (c: The more I talk about >fiction-writing software, the more likely I am to get excited and start >working on it more. > >John > Me, I like the open source concept, and I'm cheap. Don't want to shell out the bucks for those expensive writing programs without knowing how well they'll work for me. |
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2003-03-21 15:05:35
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Hi Kat, Kat McClure wrote: > I'm a fiction writer, and your documentation is eye-crossing, at > present. It reads like code... =) I see a lot about XML, but not > alot about opening it and USING it. Yep, you're right. That's because presently, documentation only exists for the lower level programmer tools and support libraries. The writer's GUI interface is currently on hold, due to limitations in the documentation of (and thus my understanding of) the official Java libraries for creating text editors. It's painfully arcane once you step outside the narrow comfortable bounds of their default editor. My first release of ScriptForge (for screenwriting) used this default editor, but it wouldn't allow me to store non-text data, like annotations, character info, revisions, and such. So I started looking into loading it as an XML document. The text editor libraries seemed to be designed to do this sort of thing, but in practice it soon turned into me having to reimplement half of *their* editor from scratch. I never did get it working beyond the current barely functional state. From there, I got interested in better ways to design the back end, auto-generating as much as possible. I've also been able to develop some sub-projects through my day job (RenderForge PDF generator and Bellows XML library). That's why those have been getting the most focus lately, and not the actual writing tools. I would like to get back into the end user applications soon. They may take an entirely different direction, though. I've been thinking about interactive online writer's collaboration, supporting real-time co-editing, revisioning, and a web interface. Also hot on the list is some sort of trust metrics or voting system to provide general and specific feedback for authors who decide to post their stories online. > I have a couple of suggestions. First of all, you asked how to > distinguish writing description from dialog. I don't have any other > softwares, but I just type " when I want to start dialog. I suppose > you could trigger off a use of double quotes. CTRL-d for dialog and > CTRL-p for paragraph seems a little much. If the sentance starts with > a double quote, you can assume it's dialog, if it doesn't, it isn't. Are you talking about screenwriting? In screenwriting, you don't really use double quotes. In normal prose writing, I would expect paragraphs to work just like normal word processors, with the <return> key. The problem is that with screenwriting, you have different types of paragraphs. The dialogue is indented differently from descriptive paragraphs, and the two are never intermixed. > Second. Not to step on your toes or anything, but I thought the idea > of open source was to combine programing talents and make something > useful for everybody. Do a search for WRITER in sourceforge. I > discovered a bunch of projects that want to do what you are doing, > from writer's helpers, to collaborative writers, to e-book makers > (that's the extraction to PDF thing) but they haven't got off the > ground yet. Talk to them. Work with them. Collaborate. If I'm > outta line, say so. It won't hurt my feelings. Just trying to help. No, you're right. Before starting Writer's Forge, I did a survey of the current tools, and none of them were open enough and had the focus/programming language/activity I wanted to see. Or were vaporware. (c: > Off the top of my head, I think these might be candidates... All on > sourceforge. Might be more. > CTW - Cooperative Text Writer <http://sourceforge.net/projects/ctw/> > Wordsmyth <http://sourceforge.net/projects/wordsmyth/> writing aid Both of these look like web-only versions of online collaboration, similar to, but much simpler than my goals. Unfortunately, they have no code, and their mailing lists have had no traffic. Each over a year and a half old. I'm guessing they are abandoned. > OpenWriter <http://sourceforge.net/projects/openwriter/> coop writing. > PlotWeaver <http://sourceforge.net/projects/plotweaver1/> writing aid > Univerzek <http://sourceforge.net/projects/univerzek/> writing aid > FreeBook ebook reader/writer > <http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-ebook/>SP Writer > <http://sourceforge.net/projects/spwriter/> writing aid Looks like none of these have any code released either. I've noticed that there are quite a few (perhaps most?) SourceForge projects that never go anywhere. It seems open source projects are like stories: everyone's got an idea, but only a small percentage actually get written. (c: On one hand, I should try to contact them, as you suggest, to combine efforts. However, I do tend to be wary about these empty projects. If they aren't motivated enough to work on their own project, what are the chances they'll be productive in someone else's project? The SP Writer project seems to have a lot in common with Writer's Forge, and at least has a web site. I wonder if he's noticed WF at all? Maybe I'll at least contact him. (Or you could?) Thanks for your comments! Let me know if you come across other similar projects. And feel free to open discussion on just about any writer-related topics here. I always try to cultivate community, but that's hard when no one is posting. (c: The more I talk about fiction-writing software, the more likely I am to get excited and start working on it more. John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://writersforge.sourceforge.net http://www.metacasa.com |
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From: Kat M. <kmc...@ml...> - 2003-03-21 08:23:37
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I'm a fiction writer, and your documentation is eye-crossing, at present. It reads like code... =) I see a lot about XML, but not alot about opening it and USING it. I have a couple of suggestions. First of all, you asked how to distinguish writing description from dialog. I don't have any other softwares, but I just type " when I want to start dialog. I suppose you could trigger off a use of double quotes. CTRL-d for dialog and CTRL-p for paragraph seems a little much. If the sentance starts with a double quote, you can assume it's dialog, if it doesn't, it isn't. Second. Not to step on your toes or anything, but I thought the idea of open source was to combine programing talents and make something useful for everybody. Do a search for WRITER in sourceforge. I discovered a bunch of projects that want to do what you are doing, from writer's helpers, to collaborative writers, to e-book makers (that's the extraction to PDF thing) but they haven't got off the ground yet. Talk to them. Work with them. Collaborate. If I'm outta line, say so. It won't hurt my feelings. Just trying to help. Off the top of my head, I think these might be candidates... All on sourceforge. Might be more. CTW - Cooperative Text Writer <http://sourceforge.net/projects/ctw/> Wordsmyth <http://sourceforge.net/projects/wordsmyth/> writing aid Open Writer <http://sourceforge.net/projects/openwriter/> coop writing. PlotWeaver <http://sourceforge.net/projects/plotweaver1/> writing aid Univerzek <http://sourceforge.net/projects/univerzek/> writing aid FreeBook ebook reader/ writer <http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-ebook/> SP Writer <http://sourceforge.net/projects/spwriter/> writing aid |
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2003-02-09 19:53:58
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Mitchell Jamel wrote: >Hi, > Hi Mitchell, >Please find Some Ideas that I think would be great > >1 - Develop a Characters database that contains all information . Sex, height, weight , eyes , hobbies etc. > This would be useful for (and sharable by) all types of writing, including screenwriting, novel writing, etc. I had vaguely planned a sort of character repository where you could store characters for everything you're working on. You could import characters into new writing projects, like a sequel or a novelization of a previous movie script. You could duplicate and rename them, using a favorite character type as a template. This would be nice for quickly building characters from archetypes. I'd also like to be able to describe relationships between characters, perhaps basing that on personality type. >2 - Develop a camera view database - close-up / wide-angle etc > Do you mean a selection of keyboard shortcuts, or maybe a popup selection while you're typing? The camera angles wouldn't be as appropriate for spec-style scripts, but would definitely be useful for preparing a script for production, i.e., a shooting script. I definitely would like ScriptForge to be able to follow a script all the way from planning and plotting, to spec writing, and on to final production. >Anyway, I would like to see a complete wish list and time frame if possible. > I don't currently have a complete wish list for the screenwriting software. I'm still working on the underlying software tools which I'll then use to build the screenwriting program. I have a pretty detailed TODO list for the tools here, though it's kinda technical: http://writersforge.sourceforge.net/TODO.txt and a short wish list here: http://writersforge.sourceforge.net/features.txt There's more info about the tools on the main home page: http://writersforge.sourceforge.net/ As far as a timeline for the screenwriting application, I'm as impatient to finish it as anyone, but it's a huge undertaking (especially to do it well), and the foundation tools will have to come first. Stay tuned. It'll probably be at least summer before I have anything new on the screenwriting front, even though I'm making frequent releases on the tools. In the mean time, I would be happy to discuss features with you here. It's one thing to create a screenwriting app, but quite another to create a *useful* screenwriting app. The possibilities are wide open at this point, and it's the perfect time to help design (in theory) what the Ultimate Screenwriting Software should look like. I'm open to any ideas you might have, no matter how far outside the box. John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://writersforge.sourceforge.net http://www.metacasa.com |
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From: Mitchell J. <mj...@di...> - 2003-02-09 15:23:34
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2002-09-10 13:40:21
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Hi, Does anyone here have experience with other screenplay writing software? I'm trying to figure out the best way to decide whether the writer wants to write a block of dialogue or description. Do the other apps attempt to figure it out automatically, or do you have to hit a special key combo? I'd picture it as writing description by default, but hitting, say, Ctrl+d to switch to dialogue mode, and Ctrl+p to switch back to description (paragraph) mode. That's probably how I'll do it initially, but if anyone knows of a better approach, please let me know. Thanks, John -- John R. Sheets <john at metacasa dot com> http://writersforge.sourceforge.net http://www.worldforge.org |
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From: John R. S. <jo...@me...> - 2002-08-11 22:18:17
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My apologies. The previous post listed the mailing lists with
...sourceforge.org. It should have been ...sourceforge.net. Here's a
repost with the correct addresses.
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Writer's Forge now has a mailing
list, wri...@li..., specifically for end
users. Anyone interested in using and discussing Writer's Forge
software should join that list. Software developers wanting to talk
about Java coding and technical issues should join (or stay on) the
devel list. Here are the official descriptions of the two lists:
Developer's List
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wri...@li...
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/writersforge-devel
The devel list is a focused forum for discussing the engineering
strategies and architecture of the software.
This list should be used as the primary means of communication and
coordination for anyone interested in participating in the
development of Writer's Forge software. Intense technical
discussions are welcome, as are software patches and suggestions for
architectural improvements. High level non-technical discussions
about the design and use of the software should be directed to the
end-user mailing list at wri...@li...
instead.
Community List
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wri...@li...
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/writersforge-plot
The plot list is an open forum for end users to discuss the writing
process, how to use the software, and what they want from it.
This list belongs to the Writer's Forge end-user community, and can
be used for whatever that community wishes. Its primary purpose is
to promote discussion about how authoring software should be used,
and how it can contribute to efficient, high quality writing. As
such, the writersforge-plot list is the driving "plot" for the
software itself, and should guide its evolution through the twists
and turns of design and development. Since the process of writing
is so closely entwined with the theories of character development
and story design, both of those topics are welcome. The software
should support as many writing styles as possible, so any insight on
how authors create their stories is good for the software. However,
all technical discussions about how to implement the concepts
discussed on the plot list should be moved to the developers mailing
list, at wri...@li....
Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions.
John
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du...@ra... http://www.worldforge.org
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