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From: Steve W. <bi...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 21:34:42
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Back in 2011 when I started to think seriously about it, I wanted to build a web-based version of the game that took a lot of the hard thinking out of the game and made it a faster game that a few people could start and complete in a few hours. There are many, many games like that now available on phones and tablets all over the place now though, so I was thinking that taking it back to a long-turn strategy game wouldn't be that bad. Just throwing out ideas here and there over the years, I've had positive responses from previous GalaxyNG players and other friends of mine who are strategy game players with regards to reviving GalaxyNG on some sort of non-email platform. In 2011, the initial concept that I had come up with was: Have a single 'universe' where anyone could join in, play a few hours, and finish a game. Allow for multi-player and keep the basic concepts of GalaxyNG (ship design, planet capture, flat universe, alliances, battles, ...). After some discussion, there was a concern about beginning players getting stepped on by an already more powerful player, so a scrolling universe concept was made - aka, as users join the 'universe' they'd be added "to the right" (or left) of the last player to join (or thereabouts), so they'd be physically near a player of their same abilities and proportionately further away from players that were substantially more or less powerful than they were. The universe would remain 2D and scroll one direction (always the same direction) as players were added to the game. The players would build and battle, but we wanted a way for the players to only last a few hours - so we thought up something else. As a player became more and more powerful, their society would become more 'corrupt' and they'd spend more and more resources fighting the corruption of their world and eventually crumble no matter how much resources they put towards offsetting the corruption. The best title that we had for it was "Ascent into Decadence". :) Highest scores would go to those who managed to gain the most (points, planets, resources, ..) before they crumbled. Times have changed though. When I had my GalaxyNG server going strong and had a pretty active group of players back in early 2000 my friends and I would take several hours of their day planning their next move and strategizing with co-workers about if they should gang up on another player and how to design the best ship for doing things, etc... Alliances were made and broken. I think that some of the fun of the game was the whole (offline) alliance and strategy part, which isn't as easy with a faster game unfortunately. It was just an idea that never really got off the ground, and we planned to make it web-only but like I said, times have changed a lot since then. Perhaps just a non-email, but still long-turn version would still do well today. Perhaps a shorter-turn, mobile version would be more popular. I'm not a game programmer. I'm an ex-programmer, now sysadmin. So I'm not sure that my game ideas would be all that intuitive anyway. :) - Steve On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 2:50 PM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> wrote: > I know Ken also had a project that wasn't completed to modernize > GalaxyView. > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:46 PM Frans Slothouber < > fra...@gm...> wrote: > >> I would be interested. About two years ago a started on something like >> that https://github.com/gumpu/GalaxyNGV2. >> Re-implemented a large part of the server in Python. The hard part is >> making the client. Tried some stuff in javascript, but building GUIs in the >> webbrowser is hard. >> >> That said I think Galaxy would be very well suited for playing on a >> tablet! >> >> And running a server would be much easier/cheaper now-a-days too. >> Would easily fit on a Raspberry Pi. >> >> What do you have in mind to modernize it? >> >> Kind regards, >> Frans. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2 September 2015 at 22:22, Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> FYI: Several years ago I registered http://galng.com and put up a web >>> page but never really got the motivation to get it all going again. Would >>> anyone be interested in working on a modernized version of GalaxyNG? >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM Ken Weinert <kwe...@gm...> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, very much appreciated. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Frans Slothouber < >>>> fra...@gm...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yup. Thanks very much! >>>>> The Sourceforge situation is very sad. Lets hope github has a better >>>>> fate. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> Frans. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 September 2015 at 20:20, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Cool, thanks so much! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've migrated them (and my galng.tcl viewer) to my github: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/scumola/galng >>>>>>> https://github.com/scumola/galaxyview >>>>>>> https://github.com/scumola/GalaxyNG >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll work on moving the other sourceforge pages (docs/wiki/...) over >>>>>>> to Github and try to update the docs as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Steve Webb (old badcheese.com galaxyng admin) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer < >>>>>>>> chr...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still >>>>>>>>> concerned a bit. Have you seen this? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to >>>>>>>>> invest the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or >>>>>>>>> some other site? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>>>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>>>>>> in one place. >>>>>>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog >>>>>>>>> now! >>>>>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>>>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>>>> in one place. >>>>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog >>>>>>> now! >>>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>>> in one place. >>>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog >>>>>> now! >>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> You can fail at what you don't want so you may as well take a chance at >>>> what you love - Jim Carrey >>>> >>>> >>>> Ken Weinert >>>> about.me/kenweinert >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>> in one place. >>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>> Gal...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >> in one place. >> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >> _______________________________________________ >> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >> Gal...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >> > |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 20:50:33
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I know Ken also had a project that wasn't completed to modernize GalaxyView. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:46 PM Frans Slothouber <fra...@gm...> wrote: > I would be interested. About two years ago a started on something like > that https://github.com/gumpu/GalaxyNGV2. > Re-implemented a large part of the server in Python. The hard part is > making the client. Tried some stuff in javascript, but building GUIs in the > webbrowser is hard. > > That said I think Galaxy would be very well suited for playing on a > tablet! > > And running a server would be much easier/cheaper now-a-days too. > Would easily fit on a Raspberry Pi. > > What do you have in mind to modernize it? > > Kind regards, > Frans. > > > > > > On 2 September 2015 at 22:22, Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: > >> FYI: Several years ago I registered http://galng.com and put up a web >> page but never really got the motivation to get it all going again. Would >> anyone be interested in working on a modernized version of GalaxyNG? >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM Ken Weinert <kwe...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> Thank you, very much appreciated. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Frans Slothouber < >>> fra...@gm...> wrote: >>> >>>> Yup. Thanks very much! >>>> The Sourceforge situation is very sad. Lets hope github has a better >>>> fate. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Frans. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 September 2015 at 20:20, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cool, thanks so much! >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've migrated them (and my galng.tcl viewer) to my github: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/scumola/galng >>>>>> https://github.com/scumola/galaxyview >>>>>> https://github.com/scumola/GalaxyNG >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll work on moving the other sourceforge pages (docs/wiki/...) over >>>>>> to Github and try to update the docs as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Steve Webb (old badcheese.com galaxyng admin) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer < >>>>>>> chr...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still >>>>>>>> concerned a bit. Have you seen this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to >>>>>>>> invest the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or >>>>>>>> some other site? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>>>>> in one place. >>>>>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog >>>>>>>> now! >>>>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>>> in one place. >>>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog >>>>>> now! >>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>> in one place. >>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You can fail at what you don't want so you may as well take a chance at >>> what you love - Jim Carrey >>> >>> >>> Ken Weinert >>> about.me/kenweinert >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>> in one place. >>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>> Gal...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! > Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools > in one place. > SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list > Gal...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers > |
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From: Frans S. <fra...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 20:46:56
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I would be interested. About two years ago a started on something like that https://github.com/gumpu/GalaxyNGV2. Re-implemented a large part of the server in Python. The hard part is making the client. Tried some stuff in javascript, but building GUIs in the webbrowser is hard. That said I think Galaxy would be very well suited for playing on a tablet! And running a server would be much easier/cheaper now-a-days too. Would easily fit on a Raspberry Pi. What do you have in mind to modernize it? Kind regards, Frans. On 2 September 2015 at 22:22, Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: > FYI: Several years ago I registered http://galng.com and put up a web > page but never really got the motivation to get it all going again. Would > anyone be interested in working on a modernized version of GalaxyNG? > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM Ken Weinert <kwe...@gm...> wrote: > >> Thank you, very much appreciated. >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Frans Slothouber < >> fra...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> Yup. Thanks very much! >>> The Sourceforge situation is very sad. Lets hope github has a better >>> fate. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Frans. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2 September 2015 at 20:20, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Cool, thanks so much! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've migrated them (and my galng.tcl viewer) to my github: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/scumola/galng >>>>> https://github.com/scumola/galaxyview >>>>> https://github.com/scumola/GalaxyNG >>>>> >>>>> I'll work on moving the other sourceforge pages (docs/wiki/...) over >>>>> to Github and try to update the docs as well. >>>>> >>>>> - Steve Webb (old badcheese.com galaxyng admin) >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still >>>>>>> concerned a bit. Have you seen this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to >>>>>>> invest the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or >>>>>>> some other site? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>>>> in one place. >>>>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog >>>>>>> now! >>>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>> in one place. >>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>> in one place. >>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>> Gal...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> You can fail at what you don't want so you may as well take a chance at >> what you love - Jim Carrey >> >> >> Ken Weinert >> about.me/kenweinert >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >> in one place. >> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >> _______________________________________________ >> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >> Gal...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >> > |
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From: Steve W. <bi...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 20:23:16
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FYI: Several years ago I registered http://galng.com and put up a web page but never really got the motivation to get it all going again. Would anyone be interested in working on a modernized version of GalaxyNG? On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM Ken Weinert <kwe...@gm...> wrote: > Thank you, very much appreciated. > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Frans Slothouber < > fra...@gm...> wrote: > >> Yup. Thanks very much! >> The Sourceforge situation is very sad. Lets hope github has a better >> fate. >> >> Kind regards, >> Frans. >> >> >> >> On 2 September 2015 at 20:20, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >> wrote: >> >>> Cool, thanks so much! >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >>> >>>> I've migrated them (and my galng.tcl viewer) to my github: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/scumola/galng >>>> https://github.com/scumola/galaxyview >>>> https://github.com/scumola/GalaxyNG >>>> >>>> I'll work on moving the other sourceforge pages (docs/wiki/...) over to >>>> Github and try to update the docs as well. >>>> >>>> - Steve Webb (old badcheese.com galaxyng admin) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still >>>>>> concerned a bit. Have you seen this? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ >>>>>> >>>>>> SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to >>>>>> invest the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or >>>>>> some other site? >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>>> in one place. >>>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog >>>>>> now! >>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>> in one place. >>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>> Gal...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>> in one place. >>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>> Gal...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>> >>> >> > > > -- > > You can fail at what you don't want so you may as well take a chance at > what you love - Jim Carrey > > > Ken Weinert > about.me/kenweinert > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! > Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools > in one place. > SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list > Gal...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers > |
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From: Ken W. <kwe...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 19:05:33
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Thank you, very much appreciated. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Frans Slothouber < fra...@gm...> wrote: > Yup. Thanks very much! > The Sourceforge situation is very sad. Lets hope github has a better fate. > > Kind regards, > Frans. > > > > On 2 September 2015 at 20:20, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> > wrote: > >> Cool, thanks so much! >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> I've migrated them (and my galng.tcl viewer) to my github: >>> >>> https://github.com/scumola/galng >>> https://github.com/scumola/galaxyview >>> https://github.com/scumola/GalaxyNG >>> >>> I'll work on moving the other sourceforge pages (docs/wiki/...) over to >>> Github and try to update the docs as well. >>> >>> - Steve Webb (old badcheese.com galaxyng admin) >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >>> >>>> I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still >>>>> concerned a bit. Have you seen this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ >>>>> >>>>> SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to >>>>> invest the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or >>>>> some other site? >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>>> in one place. >>>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>>> Gal...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>> in one place. >>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>> Gal...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >> in one place. >> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >> _______________________________________________ >> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >> Gal...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >> >> > -- You can fail at what you don't want so you may as well take a chance at what you love - Jim Carrey Ken Weinert about.me/kenweinert |
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From: Frans S. <fra...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 18:37:40
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Yup. Thanks very much! The Sourceforge situation is very sad. Lets hope github has a better fate. Kind regards, Frans. On 2 September 2015 at 20:20, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> wrote: > Cool, thanks so much! > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: > >> I've migrated them (and my galng.tcl viewer) to my github: >> >> https://github.com/scumola/galng >> https://github.com/scumola/galaxyview >> https://github.com/scumola/GalaxyNG >> >> I'll work on moving the other sourceforge pages (docs/wiki/...) over to >> Github and try to update the docs as well. >> >> - Steve Webb (old badcheese.com galaxyng admin) >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still concerned >>>> a bit. Have you seen this? >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ >>>> >>>> SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to >>>> invest the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or >>>> some other site? >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>>> in one place. >>>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>>> Gal...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >> in one place. >> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >> _______________________________________________ >> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >> Gal...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! > Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools > in one place. > SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list > Gal...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers > > |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 18:20:52
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Cool, thanks so much! On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: > I've migrated them (and my galng.tcl viewer) to my github: > > https://github.com/scumola/galng > https://github.com/scumola/galaxyview > https://github.com/scumola/GalaxyNG > > I'll work on moving the other sourceforge pages (docs/wiki/...) over to > Github and try to update the docs as well. > > - Steve Webb (old badcheese.com galaxyng admin) > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: > >> I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still concerned >>> a bit. Have you seen this? >>> >>> >>> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ >>> >>> SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to >>> invest the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or >>> some other site? >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >>> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >>> in one place. >>> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >>> Gal...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! > Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools > in one place. > SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list > Gal...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers > |
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From: Steve W. <bi...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 17:53:17
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I've migrated them (and my galng.tcl viewer) to my github: https://github.com/scumola/galng https://github.com/scumola/galaxyview https://github.com/scumola/GalaxyNG I'll work on moving the other sourceforge pages (docs/wiki/...) over to Github and try to update the docs as well. - Steve Webb (old badcheese.com galaxyng admin) On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM Steve Webb <bi...@gm...> wrote: > I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> > wrote: > >> I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still concerned a >> bit. Have you seen this? >> >> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ >> >> SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to invest >> the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or some >> other site? >> >> Chris >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! >> Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools >> in one place. >> SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 >> _______________________________________________ >> GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list >> Gal...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers >> > |
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From: Steve W. <bi...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 16:20:34
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I could move it unless anyone else would like to do it. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> wrote: > I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still concerned a > bit. Have you seen this? > > > http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ > > SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to invest > the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or some > other site? > > Chris > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! > Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools > in one place. > SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > GalaxyNG-Developers mailing list > Gal...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyng-developers > |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2015-09-02 13:57:42
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I'm years away from doing anything with GalaxyNG... but still concerned a bit. Have you seen this? http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ SourceForge appears to be circling the drain. Is anyone willing to invest the time it would take to move GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to GitHub or some other site? Chris |
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From: Vitani <vi...@tf...> - 2012-09-14 17:05:02
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I believe it was ja...@pa... On 14 September 2012 17:27, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> wrote: > Any idea who initiated this? > > -- > Chris > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: SourceForge.net <nor...@in...> > Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:52 AM > Subject: SourceForge Project Upgrade Notification > To: no...@in... > > > A request to upgrade GalaxyView has been submitted. The upgrade request > will be processed shortly. > > You can view the status of this upgrade at > https://sourceforge.net/p/upgrade/?search=galaxyview > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Got visibility? > Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. > Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? > http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html > _______________________________________________ > GalaxyView-Developers mailing list > Gal...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galaxyview-developers > > |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2012-09-14 16:28:07
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Any idea who initiated this? -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: SourceForge.net <nor...@in...> Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:52 AM Subject: SourceForge Project Upgrade Notification To: no...@in... A request to upgrade GalaxyView has been submitted. The upgrade request will be processed shortly. You can view the status of this upgrade at https://sourceforge.net/p/upgrade/?search=galaxyview |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2005-08-29 14:31:42
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If you have access to a Delphi compiler and/or you're a Pascal programmer, we need your help to make some minor revisions to "old Galaxyview". Email me off-list if you can help. --=20 Chris |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2005-01-28 04:03:15
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Here are changes necessitated by the SourceForge upgrade. I suggest you review the detailed list, which indicates changes to cron, scripting and other issues. I think I've identified all the ones that affect GalaxyNG and GalaxyView below, but I'm not entirely sure. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1109940&group_id=1&atid=350001 I'll need to update the websites for both GalaxyNG and GalaxyView to use the new logos. Fortunately, this is an easy change to the footer on both sites. Logo Display: The URL for SourceForge.net logo display is changing. The sourceforge.net hostname should be replaced with sflogo.sourceforge.net in all SourceForge.net logo display URLs. Instructions have been updated accordingly. These changes allow us to more rapidly execute changes to the logo service and segment unrelated traffic. Logo display continues to be mandatory for all projects that use our project web servers. If you're not already using SSH keys, you'll need to start. Transition to SSH key authentication: Password authentication to the project shell servers will be deprecated in early 2005. All users are encouraged to establish SSH keys for authentication, as described in the Site Documentation. This change is being made to improve security and reduce password dependency; both SSH1 and SSH2 keys are supported. We have provided support for SSH key authentication for several years. I'll be able to uninstall our local copy of phpMyAdmin used to maintain the GalaxyNG Hall of Fame. MySQL database version upgrade, centralized phpMyAdmin: MySQL database services will be upgraded to MySQL 4.0.x. At that time, we will begin offering a centralized phpMyAdmin service, allowing projects to more readily maintain their project database. An overview of changes in MySQL 4.0.x may be seen at: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/News-4.0.x.html http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Upgrading-from-3.23.html This change is being made to improve the quality of our MySQL database service; this is a standard version upgrade to the next stable release of the MySQL database software. I need to check the MySQL database names used for the GalaxyNG Hall of Fame. Change to MySQL database server host name: All MySQL database access should performed against the MySQL server whose letter matches the first letter of your project UNIX name. Previously, projects would access 'mysql.sourceforge.net'. If your project UNIX name is 'projectname', you would now access 'mysql-p.sourceforge.net'. This change is being made to permit increases in the number of MySQL database servers used to serve project traffic. -- Chris |
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From: Baruch E. <ba...@ev...> - 2004-11-10 05:41:32
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On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 02:00, Chris Shaffer wrote: > On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:22:05 +0000, Baruch Even <ba...@ev...> wrote: > > Is there a working/semi-working implementation of the Linux client? > > Semi-working. We're doing a complete rewrite of the code and I'd say > it's about 60% done (I may be wrong on that estimate though :=) > > > Where do I see the current code and how can I compile it? > > You can download the most recent version from cvs. hellcat may be > able to send you a binary also, once he reads this. Most of the > developers are in the UK, thus asleep right now. I got the sources from the CVS, and I assume it is the galaxyview module. How do I get it to compile, if I ./reconfig.sh with automake 1.9 it fails in automake since it doesn't support the sources in a subdir, if I use 1.8 it fails in the aclocal stage. What do I need to get it to compile? Baruch |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2004-11-09 03:01:05
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:22:05 +0000, Baruch Even <ba...@ev...> wrote: > Hi, > > What is the current GalaxyView status? The Windows binary doesn't work > under my Linux machine even with Wine. It just shows an empty map and > will not even refresh the map screen area so the menus will stay on it. Do you have winspool.drv and winhelpcgi installed? I and many others have gotten it to work on Linux, though admittedly the window behavior is funky (window artifacts hang around, windows that should pop-up are pop-under instead, etc.) > Is there a working/semi-working implementation of the Linux client? Semi-working. We're doing a complete rewrite of the code and I'd say it's about 60% done (I may be wrong on that estimate though :=) > Where do I see the current code and how can I compile it? You can download the most recent version from cvs. hellcat may be able to send you a binary also, once he reads this. Most of the developers are in the UK, thus asleep right now. Your best bet for help or quick question answers is to join us on IRC at irc.lacuna.eu.org in #galaxyview. -- Chris |
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From: Baruch E. <ba...@ev...> - 2004-11-09 01:22:12
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Hi, What is the current GalaxyView status? The Windows binary doesn't work under my Linux machine even with Wine. It just shows an empty map and will not even refresh the map screen area so the menus will stay on it. Is there a working/semi-working implementation of the Linux client? Where do I see the current code and how can I compile it? Baruch |
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From: Ken W. <kwe...@gm...> - 2004-09-02 20:33:08
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From here on forward, hellcat is the main admin (along with TheCat) on the GalaxyView project. I'm just running out of time and feeling like I'm holding up the project and tooks steps to rectify that problem. I'm still around for questions, some work as I have time, etc - but HC is the main person for coordination now. Thanks for all your help. -- Ken Weinert kwe...@gm... |
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From: Ken W. <mc...@qu...> - 2004-06-07 14:14:28
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Hellcat did a lot of work to get a working prototype for Windows and Linux that implements a framework/component architecture. I took his example code (which we posted up to wxWidgets site) and made it a bit more specific for our project. I added it as a new module under the galaxyview project. Here's how you can check it out. 1) move/rename your current galaxyview top level directory. There's still a lot of code there that I think we'll be able to reuse. 2) cvs -d :ext:<userid>@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/galaxyview co -d galaxyview framework this command checks out the framework module into a directory named galaxyview. On linux you should be able to compile from the src directory (as long as your wx-config is the one you want to build with - we have been building with 2.5.1). On Windows you'll need to cd to the the framework and component directories to compile. Note that I did some preliminary editing of the vcproj files, but they are *not* guaranteeed to work correctly without some tweaking. We need to decide what interface methods we need for plugins. That, and whether we need a modification to our current scheme. Our current prototype component has a CreatePane method (or some name like that that I've not the time to look up :) - but not all of our components will be pane oriented. Should we have a generic component that implements everything in common and then derive pane, map, and table components or just include all the methods and ignore the ones that aren't used? I definately prefer the first option and we'll do it that way unless someone has a compelling reason not to. Please take a look and let me know what you think. One other thing - as long as we're restarting I'd like to enforce the use of doxygen (or some method) of including documentation in the code. Thoughts on this are also welcome. --=20 .--. =20 |o_o | Ken Weinert mc...@qu...=20 ||_/ | 303-858-6956 (V) 303-705-4258 (F)=20 // \ \ (| | ) GnuPG: 9274F1CE GnuPG available at http://www.gnupg.org/ /'\_ _/`\ 1D87 3720 BB77 4489 A928 79D6 F8EC DD76 9274 F1CE \___)=3D(___/=20 For your convenience, all possible replies follow (some assembly required): 1 0 |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@us...> - 2004-03-10 12:14:54
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Quoting MikleM <mi...@li...>: > Hello! > > I like to play BlindGalaxy, and only tool I find was GalaxyView. It's > interesting, but not very comfotable (compared with GVNG, which I use for > GalaxyNG). > > I see in sourceforge, that you use not only Delphi (which I don't use), but > VC++ also - so if you planned to move this project from Delphi to C++ - I > can help. > > My experience mainly in programming for Win32: > > Programming Languages: > MS Visual C/C++ 4.2/6.0/7.0/7.1 - 7 years > Oracle SQL/PLSQL 7/8i/9i - 5 years > PowerBuilder 5.0-9.0 - 7 years > > Operating Systems: > Windows 95/98/NT/2000. > > Databases: > Oracle 7/8i/9i - 7 years > MSSQL 7/2000 - 2 years > FoxPro (2.6) - 3 years > > Currently I studing Java, but didn't use it in practice. > I'm first time about developing sf.net project. > Sorry for my English. Sounds great! The GalaxyView developers hang out on IRC at irc.morat.net in #galaxyview. Feel free to drop in and chat with us - IRC is the best place to learn more about the project. Roland wrote GalaxyView in Delphi - we're completely rewriting the program in C++ from the ground up. Delphi experience definitely isn't required. I've copied this to the galaxyview-developers list. p.s. Your English is great - much better than my Russian! -- Chris Shaffer christhecat |
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From: Ken W. <mc...@qu...> - 2004-03-01 21:31:53
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OK, it's been a long time and I can't really spend a lot of time on GV right now (mainly my medical issues) but I've not forgotten about this project. When last we spoke I was proposing using a plugin based architecture. Hellcat says he's looked at the plugin code and it looks doable, but perhaps complex. What I'd like to engender with this email is some discussion about the way we move forward. I'd like to see us build a framework that almost everything is a plugin to. This doesn't mean that every variant would need a plugin - if the functionality is the same then they can use the same plugin. I'd like to set it up hierarchically with variant specific plugins used in preference to generic ones. One point of discussion is whether this is done by name or directory structure. Another question that came up was this: do we start over and copy the good bits over to the new code or do we modify what we already have? I've not looked closely enough at where we are now and what changes will be required to support the plugin architecture to have an opinion yet. OK, now you have a topic (or two) - talk amongst ourselves, let's see where we will be headed. Thanks. --=20 .--. Ken Weinert mc...@qu... |o_o | ||_/ | 303-858-6956 (V) 303-705-4258 (F)=20 // \ \ (| | ) GnuPG: 9274F1CE GnuPG available at http://www.gnupg.org/ /'\_ _/`\=20 \___)=3D(___/ 1D87 3720 BB77 4489 A928 79D6 F8EC DD76 9274 F1CE Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati "When all else fails, play dead." |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@us...> - 2003-12-17 20:56:14
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OK everyone, the stunning silence is not a reply :) Do you like the idea, do you hate the idea, are you ambivalent about the idea? Why? -- Chris Shaffer christhecat Quoting Ken Weinert <mc...@qu...>: > Hmmm, how to start. > > I've decided that I'd like to call a short halt to active development > on the basis that I'm not comfortable where I see us headed. > > It is most definately *not* a problem with the contributions of the > people writing code. It just seems to me that we are headed down the > path of maximum complexity which is due mainly (? hell, entirely) to a > lack of project direction and definition. > > I would like to take a short time to take stock of what we've learned > by what has been accomplished so far and to formulate a project plan > so that when we get started again issues that we've run up against > have been better accounted for and a direction for solving those sorts > of issues has been implemented. > > The project plan will detail the framework of the project, what tools > we'll use, the methods of implementing the different tools, what > methods we'll use for data storage and retrieval, where data is > obtained from, and the means to update these specifications when we > run across things that have not been thought of (as we most certainly > will.) Basically it will provide a vision and target to work towards. > > This is, of course, an open source project. If the other developers > are happy with where we're headed and want to continue, *please* don't > fork off another project - I'd be happier to turn this project over to > you and not fragment things. > > Please let me know what you think. > > Thanks for all your hard work and contributions so far. > > -- > .--. Ken Weinert mc...@qu... > |o_o | > ||_/ | 303-858-6956 (V) 303-705-4258 (F) > // \ \ > (| | ) GnuPG: 9274F1CE GnuPG available at http://www.gnupg.org/ > /'\_ _/`\ > \___)=(___/ 1D87 3720 BB77 4489 A928 79D6 F8EC DD76 9274 F1CE > If you can imagine a society in which the computer-robot is the only > menial, you can imagine anything. -- Alan J. Perlis > > |
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From: Ken W. <mc...@qu...> - 2003-12-15 15:26:56
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Hmmm, how to start. I've decided that I'd like to call a short halt to active development on the basis that I'm not comfortable where I see us headed. It is most definately *not* a problem with the contributions of the people writing code. It just seems to me that we are headed down the path of maximum complexity which is due mainly (? hell, entirely) to a lack of project direction and definition. I would like to take a short time to take stock of what we've learned by what has been accomplished so far and to formulate a project plan so that when we get started again issues that we've run up against have been better accounted for and a direction for solving those sorts of issues has been implemented. The project plan will detail the framework of the project, what tools we'll use, the methods of implementing the different tools, what methods we'll use for data storage and retrieval, where data is obtained from, and the means to update these specifications when we run across things that have not been thought of (as we most certainly will.) Basically it will provide a vision and target to work towards. This is, of course, an open source project. If the other developers are happy with where we're headed and want to continue, *please* don't fork off another project - I'd be happier to turn this project over to you and not fragment things. Please let me know what you think. Thanks for all your hard work and contributions so far. --=20 .--. Ken Weinert mc...@qu... |o_o | ||_/ | 303-858-6956 (V) 303-705-4258 (F)=20 // \ \ (| | ) GnuPG: 9274F1CE GnuPG available at http://www.gnupg.org/ /'\_ _/`\=20 \___)=3D(___/ 1D87 3720 BB77 4489 A928 79D6 F8EC DD76 9274 F1CE If you can imagine a society in which the computer-robot is the only menial, you can imagine anything. -- Alan J. Perlis |
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From: Chris S. <cat...@ge...> - 2003-11-26 19:27:28
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So, from my standpoint this sounds like a good idea. I'd like to hear what the coders think. hellcat, Azrael, Red_Hook, Stormcaller, what do you all think of this idea? Chris Quoting "Kenneth D. Weinert" <ke...@qu...>: > Here are a couple of links from recent posts to the wxUsers list: > > http://atol.sf.net/plugin_test.zip > http://gaos.org/~schleif/portable_plugin_example.tar.gz > > I would like to move in the direction of the different tools being > plugins that are loaded either at the start or as needed. This is > intended to do two things for us: 1) help keep the design clean and > reduce complexity. As the tools are built as standalone pieces, it > should help keep the design clean. 2) it should make it easier to > extend the viewer to the other variants - just plug in different > pieces. > > IIRC the first link searches a directory to look for plugins - I think > that's the approach I'd like to take unless one of you has a better > idea. > > Let's explore the plugin architecture a bit, talk about it, etc. > > Thanks. > > -- > .--. Ken Weinert mc...@qu... > |o_o | > ||_/ | 303-452-6603 (on the national no-call list :) > // \ \ > (| | ) GnuPG: 9274F1CE GnuPG available at http://www.gnupg.org/ > /'\_ _/`\ > \___)=(___/ 1D87 3720 BB77 4489 A928 79D6 F8EC DD76 9274 F1CE > I put instant coffee in a microwave, and almost went back in time. > > -- ChrisTheCat |
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From: Kenneth D. W. <ke...@qu...> - 2003-11-23 05:38:26
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Here are a couple of links from recent posts to the wxUsers list: http://atol.sf.net/plugin_test.zip http://gaos.org/~schleif/portable_plugin_example.tar.gz I would like to move in the direction of the different tools being plugins that are loaded either at the start or as needed. This is intended to do two things for us: 1) help keep the design clean and reduce complexity. As the tools are built as standalone pieces, it should help keep the design clean. 2) it should make it easier to extend the viewer to the other variants - just plug in different pieces. IIRC the first link searches a directory to look for plugins - I think that's the approach I'd like to take unless one of you has a better idea.=20 Let's explore the plugin architecture a bit, talk about it, etc. Thanks. --=20 .--. Ken Weinert mc...@qu... |o_o | ||_/ | 303-452-6603 (on the national no-call list :) // \ \ (| | ) GnuPG: 9274F1CE GnuPG available at http://www.gnupg.org/ /'\_ _/`\=20 \___)=3D(___/ 1D87 3720 BB77 4489 A928 79D6 F8EC DD76 9274 F1CE I put instant coffee in a microwave, and almost went back in time. |
