Re: [Bluemusic-users] 0.110.0 beta
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From: jared <mic...@ms...> - 2006-12-16 22:21:11
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Hey Steven thanks for the answers. In return, I have more questions! What do you mean when you say, 'when you're in the same directory as the jar file'? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: blu...@li... [mailto:blu...@li...] On Behalf Of Steven Yi Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:02 AM To: blue users mailing list Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] 0.110.0 beta Hi Jared, The version seems just fine then. Maybe running with Java from the popup menu doesn't work, but you can run it from a command prompt using: java -jar blue_0.110.0_beta_installer.jar when you're in the same directory as the jar file. Let me know if that works, and if not, what error messages you get. Good luck! steven On 12/15/06, jared <mic...@ms...> wrote: > Okay, command prompt told me: > > Java version "1.5.0_09" > Java (TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_09-b03) > Java HotSpot (TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_09-b03, mixed mode, sharing) > > Thanks! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blu...@li... > [mailto:blu...@li...] On Behalf Of > Steven Yi > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:04 AM > To: blue users mailing list > Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] 0.110.0 beta > > Hi Jared, > > It might be that you might not have a 1.4 or greater version of Java, > or that the Java version that shows up in the open with might not be > the right version. Could you open up a command prompt and type: > > java -version > > and tell me what you get? > > steven > > > On 12/15/06, jared <mic...@ms...> wrote: > > Thanks Steven! I suppose I should file that last question under the > > 'duh' category! > > > > Okay, so I tried to open it with a right click-> open with-> java, but > > it didn't work. A dos screen pops up, then quickly disappears. > Hmmmm. > > I tried to open it with 'javaw' (java virtual machine launcher) but it > > says 'could not find the main class. Program will exit.' Any ideas? > > > > Thanks Steven!!! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blu...@li... > > [mailto:blu...@li...] On Behalf Of > > Steven Yi > > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:09 AM > > To: blue users mailing list > > Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] 0.110.0 beta > > > > Hi Jared, > > > > The Jar is not something to unzip but rather to run and it is > > cross-platform. If you're one Windows and Java is set up to be > > associated with Jar files, double-clicking the jar will start the > > installer. If you don't have Java associated with Jar files, then you > > should be able to right click the Jar and have an option to run with > > Java. > > > > Hope that helps! > > steven > > > > > > On 12/15/06, jared <mic...@ms...> wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > > > Are the beta's that are being sent out MAC only? When I unzip the > jar > > > file, I can't seem to find the bin folder..and I don't see any > > > executable/dos batch files either. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: blu...@li... > > > [mailto:blu...@li...] On Behalf Of > > > Steven Yi > > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:49 PM > > > To: blue users mailing list > > > Subject: [Bluemusic-users] 0.110.0 beta > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I've put up a beta of 0.110.0 at: > > > > > > http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue_0.110.0_beta_installer.jar > > > > > > a picture of the parameter example is available here: > > > > > > http://www.kunstmusik.com/automation.png > > > > > > I guess it should have been called alpha since I still want to add a > > > couple things, but this version has parameter automation (amongst > > > other things! =) ) and is closing up for release soon. > > > > > > If anyone could help with testing I'd really appreciate any and all > > > feedback I can get as a lot went into it and lots of places opened > up > > > where bugs may come up. Also, if you are testing, please make > backups > > > of your current projects before working with this release. It's > > > important to me find out if everyone's projects are working as-is > with > > > the new stuff, but I think it is prudent to backup everything just > in > > > case. > > > > > > Particularly of interest to me in terms of bugs is that everyone's > > > older projects can be opened/modified/saved and everything is > exactly > > > as it was before even though things underneath the hood have > changed. > > > > > > In terms of other testing, it'd be great if you all could give it a > > > try and let me know how you think it "feels" and suggestions for > ways > > > to make it more intuitive or easier/faster to modify. > > > > > > ** Some intro to using the parameter automation ** > > > > > > -parameters that can be automated are the knob, the sliders in all > > > forms, and the xy controller > > > > > > -BSBInstruments, Effects, and the volumes in the Mixer are > automatable > > > > > > -selecting the "A" button in the new sound layer panels will open a > > > popup menu showing parameters that are automatable; if the parameter > > > is in greeen it means that the current soundLayer contains that > > > parameter's automation; if it is orange it means another soundLayer > > > contains that parameter's automation; if it is normal colored it > means > > > the parameter is not automated. If you click a green parameter it > > > will turn off that parameter's automation. If you click an orange > > > parameter it will remove it from the soundLayer it is currently on > and > > > add it to the soundLayer you're using. > > > > > > -multiple parameters can be set on a layer; when in single line > mode, > > > you can use the mousewheel to switch between what parameter is being > > > automated. I may change this however and remove the mousewheel > > > feature or modify it to possibly require a modifier like > > > ctrl-mousewheel. > > > > > > -code that uses the automated parameter will be generated as a > > > constant if that parameter is not automated or will be generated as > a > > > gk signal (rendering a CSD to Screen and observing output will show > > > how this is all implemented) > > > > > > -as you move the render start time, the values of UI widgets will > > > update for the value of the automated parameter; if you modify a > > > parameter that is automated and a line point is not existent, it > will > > > add a new point and update the line on the main timeline > > > > > > -you can right-click and open the line table editor to edit the time > > > and value of the line points by hand for precision (this is in > > > single-line mode) > > > > > > -in single line mode, to switch between lines, you currently have to > > > use the right-click popup menu > > > > > > -resolution is supported (you can see the stair stepped values in > the > > > UI screenshot); the way I've implemented the parameter instruments > for > > > those with resolution I think is the optimal way to do it, but feel > > > free if you have other ideas to let me know > > > > > > ** Some things I know about and am already planning to work on or am > > > working on ** > > > > > > -Only two of the three new modes are implemented (the sound object > and > > > single line modes); I am planning a third mode for selecting groups > of > > > points and dragging (that will be the multi line mode). I am > > > considering pushing that to the next release cycle though as there's > > > already a lot to work with and test in this release. > > > > > > -The modes do not yet have shortcuts to switch between (any > > > suggestions?) > > > > > > -line selection and knowing what line you are on is not very good > > > right now. I will be working on a new panel that will be added to > the > > > sound layer panel (on the left part of the timeline) that will have > > > show the color of the current parameter's line (and allow editing), > > > the name of the current parameter, and a set of left/right buttons > to > > > switch lines. > > > > > > -I'm planning on allowing negative resolutions for sliders that > would > > > set to 0.01 resolution for the slider widget but allow parameter > > > automation at any value > > > > > > -no documentation yet! (Working on it! =) ) > > > > > > > > > I'm sure I've missed a few things but would love to hear what > everyone > > > thinks. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > steven > > > > > > p.s. - Paolo (which one I don't know!) made a request in the bug > > > tracker for a modification to the PianoRoll; it now has some > > > highlights that show what notes you currently are editing in the > left > > > hand row header which should make things easier, as well as labels > in > > > MIDI mode > > > > > > p.p.s. - ChangeLog so far for this release: > > > > > > blue > > > > > > [new] - Parameter Automtation - Editable automation of > parameters > > > (knobs, > > > sliders, xy-controller from BSB and Effects, mixer > volume) > > > on > > > timeline > > > > > > [new] - BSB/ObjectBuilder > > > > > > - PresetManager now able to cut/copy/paste items in > > > PresetsManager > > > Dialog, as well as able to add groups in dialog and > > > import/export > > > item or folder to file > > > > > > - reworked to require all object names to > have > > > unique names for > > > their replacement values and don't clash > with > > > any other object > > > within that BSB or ObjectBuilder > > > > > > [new/updated] - Piano Roll > > > > > > - added labels for all notes in MIDI mode (Request > > > 1604019 by > > > Paolo) > > > > > > - added new green hilighter in row header for > selected > > > notes, > > > follows selected notes when moved up and down to > > easier > > > show what > > > note is currently being edited > > > > > > [new/updated] - Redid blueLive interface, started work on MIDI > SCO > > > Pad to > > > record MIDI data as SCO using note templates (not yet > > > finished) > > > > > > [updated] - Redid SoundLayer User Interface; no longer uses > > JTable, > > > instead > > > using custom panels > > > > > > [updated] - Changed number of different height sizes for layers > > from > > > 5 to 9 > > > > > > [updated] - When setting min and max values for lines and BSB > > > Objects that > > > have these values, better checking is done and user is > > > alerted if > > > new boundary value crosses the other boundary, and > option > > is > > > shown > > > to user to either rescale the values to the new min and > > max, > > > or to > > > keep values and truncate any that are outside of the > > > boundaries to > > > the boundary value > > > > > > [fix] - ProgramOptions Setting Dialog was setting values for > > > RealTimeRender > > > and DiskRender settings on global ProgramOptions even > when > > > window > > > was closed or cancelled; now only saves values when OK > > > button is > > > selected > > > > > > [fix] - ProgramOptions Setting Dialog was not using saved window > > > size > > > correctly as it was incorrectly being reinstantiated > every > > > time it > > > was opened > > > > > > [fix] - When editing line points using table from popup, setting > y > > > value was > > > not respecting min and max values > > > > > > [fix] - BSB/ObjectBuilder - CheckBox item was not loading > > correctly > > > from > > > presets > > > > > > internal > > > > > > [updated] - Reworked Note parsing and toString() methods; speed > > > increase by > > > about 3x (the Note class is a fundamental class and this > > > speedup > > > should improve CSD generation time) > > > > > > [updated] - Libraries and starter scripts updated > > > > > > -commons-lang library to 2.2 > > > -swing-layout to 1.0.1 > > > > > > [updated] - LinePoint's y-values converted to be absolute > instead > > of > > > 0-1.0 > > > relative > > > > > > [updated] - BSBWidget values converted to be absolute isntead of > > > 0-1.0 > > > relative > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > - > > > Take Surveys. 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