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Re: [Bluemusic-users] Re: Persian translation

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Peiman,

blue in Farsi sounds great!  I have no idea of what complications could 
occur, but it'd be simple to try out a quick test on your end.  If you 
download the version of blue I put up for translators (see archive 
message at: 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6601480&forum_id=37491 
), you could add a Farsi translation by going to 
blue/classes/blue/resources/locale and adding a 
SystemMessages_fa.properties file and an entry in the 
supportedLocales.txt file "Persian,fa" or perhaps "Farsi,fa" (I do not 
not know what is more familiar for Persian speakers).  Try translating a 
few entries such as the ones starting with "menu." to see if they will 
show up.  Finally, start up blue, go to File->Program Options and 
selecting Farsi, and restart blue to see if it renders correctly.

The program I have been suggesting is Yudit (http://www.yudit.org).  If 
you open up the file using filetype "Java", it should render the text as 
it should appear, unescaping the escaped unicode strings.  If that 
program gives problems, it should be no problem for simply using any 
text editor you are comfortable with and translating what is to the 
right of the equals signs.  For example:

menu.file.text = File

Only the "File" would need to be translated.  You can take the 
SystemMessages_en.properties file in the 
blue/classes/blue/resource/locale directory and use that for testing 
translating.  If that works and you're willing to translate the whole 
file, I think that would be absolutely wonderful!

Thanks,
steven


Pei...@ao... wrote:

> Hi Steven,
> Thanks for your replay. Mario (hello!) mentioned to me last night that 
> I could perhaps volunteer to do the Persian translation of Blue. I am 
> absolutely up for it but don't really know how it works and how much I 
> should know about programming before I can do a job like that. Another 
> thing is that it will perhaps be more complicated with Arabic 
> alphabet, is that the case?
>  
> I know that there are not many People doing electroacoustic and 
> computer music in Iran (I know of 6!) and that a great program 
> like Blue translated into Farsi can help popularise this kind of 
> composition in Iran (there is a lot of interest and talent).
>  
> I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
>  
> All the best
> Peiman           

[Bluemusic-users] Re: Persian translation

[<Pei...@ao...>]

Hi Steven,
Thanks for your replay. Mario (hello!) mentioned to me last night that I  
could perhaps volunteer to do the Persian translation of Blue. I am absolutely  
up for it but don't really know how it works and how much I should know about  
programming before I can do a job like that. Another thing is that it will  
perhaps be more complicated with Arabic alphabet, is that the case? 
 
I know that there are not many People doing electroacoustic and  computer 
music in Iran (I know of 6!) and that a great program  like Blue translated into 
Farsi can help popularise this kind of  composition in Iran (there is a lot of 
interest and talent). 
 
I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
 
All the best
Peiman           

Re: [Bluemusic-users] Re: Cecilia modules

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Peiman,

The AddtiveSynthesis module should be working, but perhaps some changes 
I had been working on have introduced bugs.  =o  All of your bug reports 
are *incredibly* helpful; the CeciliaModule is a large body of code and 
there's a lot to keep track of in my head so any reports of bugs against 
it are very helpful.  I will take note of these bugs you have listed and 
will hope to iron out soon enough.

Until then, good luck with your composing!
steven


Pei...@ao... wrote:
> Thanks Steven,
>  
> I'v installed beta 14c and started composing! 
>  
> There are somethings that may be worth mentioning, although you probably 
> know about them already. Some of the Cecilia modules don't work. When 
> loading the additive synthesis the following error massage appears: 
> java.lang.OutOfMemory Error and blue crashes. some modules cannot be 
> loaded at all (no error massage) as if loading does not make any 
> difference (i.e. stochasticgrain).For some modules (e.g. resonator bank) 
> this error massage appears: score generation failed!
>  Another thing is that some of the functions on the editor window of 
> cecilia such as "Reset Graph", "Generate Drunk Graph", "generate Square 
> Graph" and "scatter Graph" either don't work or don't function 
> correctly. Reset Graph option would be specially 
> helpful because otherwise if you want to reset the graph you either have 
> to delete all the automation points manually or reload the module.    
>  
> Thanks again and all the best,
> Peiman
>  
>  

[Bluemusic-users] Re: Cecilia modules

[<Pei...@ao...>]

Thanks Steven,
 
I'v installed beta 14c and started composing! 
 
There are somethings that may be worth mentioning, although you  probably 
know about them already. Some of the Cecilia modules don't  work. When loading 
the additive synthesis the following error  massage appears: 
java.lang.OutOfMemory Error and blue crashes. some  modules cannot be loaded at all (no error 
massage) as if loading does not  make any difference (i.e. stochasticgrain).For 
some modules (e.g. resonator  bank) this error massage appears: score 
generation failed! 
 Another thing is that some of the functions on the editor window of  cecilia 
such as "Reset Graph", "Generate Drunk Graph", "generate Square Graph"  and 
"scatter Graph" either don't work or don't function correctly. Reset Graph  
option would be specially helpful because otherwise if you want  to reset the 
graph you either have to delete all the automation points manually  or reload the 
module.    
 
Thanks again and all the best,
Peiman
 
 

[Bluemusic-users] [announce] blue 0.94.0 beta 14c

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi All,

I've pushed beta 14c of 0.94.0 to SourcForge.  This has the fix for the 
CeciliaModule bug that Peiman reported (thanks!) as well as has updated 
Spanish language files (Thanks Roberto J. Osorio-Goenaga!). 

For those of you who have been gracious enough to answer my request for 
translators, I have made a special blue build available at:

http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue.zip

This has the blue.jar expanded out in a classes directory (really should 
only be used by translators).  To run, modify either the bin/blue.bat 
(windows) or bin/blue.sh (linux) and edit the BLUE_HOME variable setting 
to where it is on your computer.  After that, the language file that you 
are working on should be placed in the classes/blue/resources/locale 
directory and you will need to modify the supportedLocales.txt file in 
that directory to add an entry for your language file.  For example, if 
doing Japanese, the file should be named SystemMessages_jp.properties, 
and the entry for supportedLocales.txt should be "Japanese,jp".  Italian 
would be SystemMessages_it.properties and "Italian,it", French would be 
SystemMessages_fr.properties and "French,fr", Portuguese would be 
SystemMessages_pt.properties and "Portuguese,pt".

To see the changes, start up blue, go to File->Program Options, then 
choose the language to use and restart blue.

Thanks all!
steven


[CHANGE LOG]

 >Notes for 0.94.0 beta 14c<
[released 2004.02.17]

blue

    [update] - Spanish language files updated by Roberto J. Osorio-Goenaga

    [update] - PianoRoll - Note entry changed to shift-click (was rt-click)

    [update] - moved HTML documentation to documentation/html; helps to make
            PDF manual easier to find

    [update] - all strings externalized for internationalization

    [fix] - CeciliaModule - time behavior now applied correctly before
            scoreStartTime

    [internal] - removed blue.undo.blueUndoGroup, replaced with HashMap 
(more
            versatile)

Re: [Bluemusic-users] [ot] - Request for translators

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Andrés,

As always, thank you for your help!  Luckily, someone has already 
volunteered to update the Spanish files, so no worries.

Thanks again and very much good luck with your work!  (I'm looking 
forward to it!)

^_^

steven


Andres Cabrera wrote:
> Hi Steven,
> I'd like to help with the spanish translation, but I want to finish 
> porting the csoundav opcodes to csound5 and documenting them before 
> starting on the translation of blue, so if noone shows up for the job 
> before that, I'll do it.
> 
> Andrés
> 

Re: [Bluemusic-users] [ot] - Request for translators

[Andres C. <an...@ge...>]

Hi Steven,
I'd like to help with the spanish translation, but I want to finish 
porting the csoundav opcodes to csound5 and documenting them before 
starting on the translation of blue, so if noone shows up for the job 
before that, I'll do it.

Andrés

steven yi wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've just finished going over my program blue and updating my string 
> files for translation. Josep Comajuncosas has been incredibly generous 
> in offering to update the Catalan version of the files, and the English 
> files are already finished.  I am looking for any help to update the 
> Korean and Spanish translations, as well as looking for new translations 
> into different languages.
> 
> Translation work consists of taking a copy of the English language file 
> and translating all the values in the key/value pairs.  An example of 
> the file is available here:
> 
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bluemusic/blue/src/blue/resources/locale/SystemMessages.properties?rev=1.21&view=markup 
> 
> 
> By doing a translation of the file, it will make blue render all text 
> for its menus, labels, etc. in that language.  Any help in this would be 
> greatly appreciated!!!
> 
> If you are interested, please email me and I can send the most recent 
> language file to translate as well as information on how to edit 
> (requires a Unicode editor that is able to understand java-style escaped 
> unicode strings, such as Yudit at yudit.org).
> 
> Thanks,
> steven
> 
> 
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Re: [Bluemusic-users] Re: Cecilia modules

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Peiman,

Thanks for the sending this file.  It helped very much to diagnose the 
bug.  The problem was a matter of bad coding; for soundObjects in blue, 
typically they follow this order:

1)Generate their notes
2)Apply time behavior
3)Change start time to match soundObject startTime

For the CeciliaModule, steps 2 and 3 were reversed, which affects both 
the starttime and durations, as you experienced.  It is fixed in CVS; I 
will try to put out a beta 14c tonight.

Thanks again and sorry for the bug!
steven


Pei...@ao... wrote:
> Dear Steven,
> Thanks for your replay, I have tried many Cecilia modules including 
> SuperBrassage and Mask filter.
> The main thing is that the length of a cecilia object seems to have an 
> effect on when that object is going to start in playback time, even if 
> the beginning time of the object is fixed on the timeline. Also the 
> total duration of the playback is different from that shown on the 
> timeline.
> Many thanks
> Peiman
>  
> P.S. I have also attached the .Blue test file as you mentioned. 
> 
> 

[Bluemusic-users] Re: Cecilia modules

[<Pei...@ao...>]

<blueData version=3D'0.94.0 beta 14a'>
  <projectProperties>
    <author>Peiman Khosravi</author>
    <title></title>
    <channels>2</channels>
    <commandLine>consound -Wdo devaudio</commandLine>
    <controlRate>44100</controlRate>
    <sampleRate>44100</sampleRate>
    <CsOptions></CsOptions>
    <notes>consound -W -o C:\test.wav -g -H3 -m3</notes>
  </projectProperties>
  <instrumentLibrary>
    <instrumentCategory categoryName=3D'Instrument Library' isRoot=3D'true'/=
>
  </instrumentLibrary>
  <arrangement/>
  <tables></tables>
  <soundObjectLibrary/>
  <globalOrcSco>
    <globalOrc></globalOrc>
    <globalSco></globalSco>
  </globalOrcSco>
  <udo></udo>
  <liveData>
    <commandLine>csound -Wdo devaudio -L stdin</commandLine>
  </liveData>
  <soundObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.PolyObject'>
    <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
    <startTime>0.0</startTime>
    <name>root</name>
    <timeBehavior>0</timeBehavior>
    <noteProcessorChain/>
    <isRoot>true</isRoot>
    <pixelSecond>12</pixelSecond>
    <heightIndex>2</heightIndex>
    <snapEnabled>false</snapEnabled>
    <snapValue>1.0</snapValue>
    <timeDisplay>0</timeDisplay>
    <timeUnit>5</timeUnit>
    <soundLayer name=3D'' muted=3D'false' solo=3D'false'>
      <soundObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.CeciliaModule'>
        <subjectiveDuration>11.0</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.0</startTime>
        <name>CeciliaModule</name>
        <orchestraVersion>1</orchestraVersion>
        <genSize>8192</genSize>
        <moduleDefinition>
          <info>
Mask filter - with upper and lower cut-offs
gain is post-balance

Alexandre Burton, 1996
</info>
          <tk_interface>
cfilein source
ctoggle balance -label &quot;Restore Power&quot; -init 1
cgraph freqsup -uni Hz -label &quot;Upper\nFrequency&quot; -rel log -min 20=20=
-max 20000 -init 5000
cgraph freqinf -label  &quot;Lower\nFrequency&quot; -uni Hz -rel log -min 20=
 -max 20000 -init 1000
csepar
cgraph gain -label Gain -uni x -rel log -min 0.1 -max 10 -init 1
cslider num -label Slope -rat i -res 1 -min 1 -max 20 -init 5
</tk_interface>
          <mono>
instr 1

kibal=09=3D gkbalance=09
 kfac=09=3D=09[sinfo source sr]/sr

aing diskin &quot;[source]&quot;, kfac, [offsource]

=09afiltg1=09tonex=09aing, gkfreqsup,ginum
=09
=09afiltg2=09atonex=09afiltg1, gkfreqinf,ginum

=09goto bal
bal:
    if =09(kibal =3D=3D 0 ) goto nobal
=09afiltg2=09balance afiltg2, aing
nobal:
=09out  =09afiltg2*gkgain,
=09
=09=09endin
</mono>
          <stereo>
instr 1

kibal=09=3D gkbalance=09
kfac=09=3D=09[sinfo source sr]/sr

aing, aind diskin &quot;[source]&quot;, kfac, [offsource]

=09afiltg1=09tonex=09aing, gkfreqsup,ginum
=09afiltd1=09tonex=09aind, gkfreqsup,ginum
=09
=09afiltg2=09atonex=09afiltg1, gkfreqinf,ginum
=09afiltd2=09 atonex=09afiltd1, gkfreqinf,ginum

=09goto bal=20
bal:
    if =09(kibal =3D=3D 0 ) goto nobal
=09afiltg2=09balance afiltg2, aing
=09afiltd2=09balance afiltd2, aind

nobal:
=09outs=09afiltg2*gkgain, afiltd2*gkgain
=09
=09=09endin
</stereo>
          <quad>

</quad>
          <score>
#minimum
</score>
        </moduleDefinition>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CSlider' nameK=
ey=3D'num'>
          <label>Slope</label>
          <objectName>num</objectName>
          <min>1.0</min>
          <max>20.0</max>
          <unit>x</unit>
          <rel>0</rel>
          <resolution>1.0</resolution>
          <value>5.0</value>
          <isHorizontal>true</isHorizontal>
          <isKrate>true</isKrate>
          <isInteger>true</isInteger>
        </ceciliaObject>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CGraph' nameKe=
y=3D'freqinf'>
          <label>Lower\nFrequency</label>
          <objectName>freqinf</objectName>
          <min>20.0</min>
          <max>20000.0</max>
          <unit>x</unit>
          <rel>1</rel>
          <gen>-1</gen>
          <size>-1</size>
          <color></color>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.0' value=3D'0.17676236'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.026700951' value=3D'0.5474351'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.03748089' value=3D'0.5867148'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.03815006' value=3D'0.5322875'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.04358254' value=3D'0.14811422'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.057090245' value=3D'0.30781317'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.08535388' value=3D'0.53926325'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.098176405' value=3D'0.43736595'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.1131269' value=3D'0.12287265'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.15160178' value=3D'0.8792035'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.1638602' value=3D'0.49925336'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.18926954' value=3D'0.03200776'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.20514737' value=3D'0.61526734'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.22132215' value=3D'0.69896203'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.2346359' value=3D'0.7216877'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.24165334' value=3D'0.10000331'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.24428935' value=3D'0.41823336'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.26170772' value=3D'0.36086956'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.26971704' value=3D'0.8022326'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.3195956' value=3D'0.2482416'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.32786426' value=3D'0.7868364'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.33445406' value=3D'0.53547925'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.34499225' value=3D'0.56375176'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.37392738' value=3D'0.16592208'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.37771186' value=3D'0.68933237'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.39490998' value=3D'0.43321964'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.39515382' value=3D'0.62778115'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.40077227' value=3D'0.8296427'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.4173642' value=3D'0.89265317'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.42451364' value=3D'0.051076863'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.43475816' value=3D'0.83661544'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.45493877' value=3D'0.40687758'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.5340103' value=3D'0.32665485'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.54240376' value=3D'0.15032257'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.5551361' value=3D'0.3909052'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.6162387' value=3D'0.08526345'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.6590662' value=3D'0.7836425'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.67021614' value=3D'0.90775204'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.696454' value=3D'0.057476155'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.7022806' value=3D'0.31639197'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.71707565' value=3D'0.39041013'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.75725514' value=3D'0.5757522'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.76160306' value=3D'0.2831115'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.8007052' value=3D'0.79808724'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.800821' value=3D'0.9287205'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.8371152' value=3D'0.41040504'/>
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          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.8581931' value=3D'0.87294537'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.86807144' value=3D'0.44178507'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'1.0' value=3D'0.79214114'/>
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        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CToggle' nameK=
ey=3D'balance'>
          <label>Restore Power</label>
          <objectName>balance</objectName>
          <isToggled>true</isToggled>
        </ceciliaObject>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CGraph' nameKe=
y=3D'freqsup'>
          <label>Upper\nFrequency</label>
          <objectName>freqsup</objectName>
          <min>20.0</min>
          <max>20000.0</max>
          <unit>x</unit>
          <rel>1</rel>
          <gen>-1</gen>
          <size>-1</size>
          <color></color>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.0' value=3D'0.6979177'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.010373901' value=3D'0.21181375'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.041284755' value=3D'0.039634198'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.04624473' value=3D'0.011193322'/>
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          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.94418234' value=3D'0.25641254'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.9588916' value=3D'0.5595988'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.98182094' value=3D'0.26453307'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.98567706' value=3D'0.62928504'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'1.0' value=3D'0.680496'/>
        </ceciliaObject>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CFileIn' nameK=
ey=3D'source'>
          <label>source</label>
          <objectName>source</objectName>
          <fileName>C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/My Documents/Soundlibrar=
y/Amplified/vf_mess_04_70bpm.wav</fileName>
          <offset>0</offset>
        </ceciliaObject>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CGraph' nameKe=
y=3D'gain'>
          <label>Gain</label>
          <objectName>gain</objectName>
          <min>0.1</min>
          <max>10.0</max>
          <unit>x</unit>
          <rel>1</rel>
          <gen>-1</gen>
          <size>-1</size>
          <color></color>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.0' value=3D'0.09090909'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'1.0' value=3D'0.09090909'/>
        </ceciliaObject>
      </soundObject>
      <soundObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.CeciliaModule'>
        <subjectiveDuration>11.0</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>20.083334</startTime>
        <name>CeciliaModule</name>
        <orchestraVersion>1</orchestraVersion>
        <genSize>8192</genSize>
        <moduleDefinition>
          <info>
Mask filter - with upper and lower cut-offs
gain is post-balance

Alexandre Burton, 1996
</info>
          <tk_interface>
cfilein source
ctoggle balance -label &quot;Restore Power&quot; -init 1
cgraph freqsup -uni Hz -label &quot;Upper\nFrequency&quot; -rel log -min 20=20=
-max 20000 -init 5000
cgraph freqinf -label  &quot;Lower\nFrequency&quot; -uni Hz -rel log -min 20=
 -max 20000 -init 1000
csepar
cgraph gain -label Gain -uni x -rel log -min 0.1 -max 10 -init 1
cslider num -label Slope -rat i -res 1 -min 1 -max 20 -init 5
</tk_interface>
          <mono>
instr 1

kibal=09=3D gkbalance=09
 kfac=09=3D=09[sinfo source sr]/sr

aing diskin &quot;[source]&quot;, kfac, [offsource]

=09afiltg1=09tonex=09aing, gkfreqsup,ginum
=09
=09afiltg2=09atonex=09afiltg1, gkfreqinf,ginum

=09goto bal
bal:
    if =09(kibal =3D=3D 0 ) goto nobal
=09afiltg2=09balance afiltg2, aing
nobal:
=09out  =09afiltg2*gkgain,
=09
=09=09endin
</mono>
          <stereo>
instr 1

kibal=09=3D gkbalance=09
kfac=09=3D=09[sinfo source sr]/sr

aing, aind diskin &quot;[source]&quot;, kfac, [offsource]

=09afiltg1=09tonex=09aing, gkfreqsup,ginum
=09afiltd1=09tonex=09aind, gkfreqsup,ginum
=09
=09afiltg2=09atonex=09afiltg1, gkfreqinf,ginum
=09afiltd2=09 atonex=09afiltd1, gkfreqinf,ginum

=09goto bal=20
bal:
    if =09(kibal =3D=3D 0 ) goto nobal
=09afiltg2=09balance afiltg2, aing
=09afiltd2=09balance afiltd2, aind

nobal:
=09outs=09afiltg2*gkgain, afiltd2*gkgain
=09
=09=09endin
</stereo>
          <quad>

</quad>
          <score>
#minimum
</score>
        </moduleDefinition>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CSlider' nameK=
ey=3D'num'>
          <label>Slope</label>
          <objectName>num</objectName>
          <min>1.0</min>
          <max>20.0</max>
          <unit>x</unit>
          <rel>0</rel>
          <resolution>1.0</resolution>
          <value>5.0</value>
          <isHorizontal>true</isHorizontal>
          <isKrate>true</isKrate>
          <isInteger>true</isInteger>
        </ceciliaObject>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CGraph' nameKe=
y=3D'freqinf'>
          <label>Lower\nFrequency</label>
          <objectName>freqinf</objectName>
          <min>20.0</min>
          <max>20000.0</max>
          <unit>x</unit>
          <rel>1</rel>
          <gen>-1</gen>
          <size>-1</size>
          <color></color>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.0' value=3D'0.17676236'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.026700951' value=3D'0.5474351'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.03748089' value=3D'0.5867148'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.03815006' value=3D'0.5322875'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.04358254' value=3D'0.14811422'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.057090245' value=3D'0.30781317'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.08535388' value=3D'0.53926325'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.098176405' value=3D'0.43736595'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.1131269' value=3D'0.12287265'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.15160178' value=3D'0.8792035'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.1638602' value=3D'0.49925336'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.18926954' value=3D'0.03200776'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.20514737' value=3D'0.61526734'/>
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          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.26971704' value=3D'0.8022326'/>
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          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.32786426' value=3D'0.7868364'/>
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          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.34499225' value=3D'0.56375176'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.37392738' value=3D'0.16592208'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.37771186' value=3D'0.68933237'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.39490998' value=3D'0.43321964'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.39515382' value=3D'0.62778115'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.40077227' value=3D'0.8296427'/>
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          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.42451364' value=3D'0.051076863'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.43475816' value=3D'0.83661544'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.45493877' value=3D'0.40687758'/>
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        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CToggle' nameK=
ey=3D'balance'>
          <label>Restore Power</label>
          <objectName>balance</objectName>
          <isToggled>true</isToggled>
        </ceciliaObject>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CGraph' nameKe=
y=3D'freqsup'>
          <label>Upper\nFrequency</label>
          <objectName>freqsup</objectName>
          <min>20.0</min>
          <max>20000.0</max>
          <unit>x</unit>
          <rel>1</rel>
          <gen>-1</gen>
          <size>-1</size>
          <color></color>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.0' value=3D'0.6979177'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.010373901' value=3D'0.21181375'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.041284755' value=3D'0.039634198'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.04624473' value=3D'0.011193322'/>
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          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.16332836' value=3D'0.26084158'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.18878576' value=3D'0.57907414'/>
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          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.8753112' value=3D'0.5260262'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.93154645' value=3D'0.7763367'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.93378794' value=3D'0.23819025'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.94418234' value=3D'0.25641254'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.9588916' value=3D'0.5595988'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.98182094' value=3D'0.26453307'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.98567706' value=3D'0.62928504'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'1.0' value=3D'0.680496'/>
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        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CFileIn' nameK=
ey=3D'source'>
          <label>source</label>
          <objectName>source</objectName>
          <fileName>C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/My Documents/Soundlibrar=
y/Amplified/vf_mess_04_70bpm.wav</fileName>
          <offset>0</offset>
        </ceciliaObject>
        <ceciliaObject type=3D'blue.soundObject.ceciliaModule.CGraph' nameKe=
y=3D'gain'>
          <label>Gain</label>
          <objectName>gain</objectName>
          <min>0.1</min>
          <max>10.0</max>
          <unit>x</unit>
          <rel>1</rel>
          <gen>-1</gen>
          <size>-1</size>
          <color></color>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'0.0' value=3D'0.09090909'/>
          <cgraphPoint time=3D'1.0' value=3D'0.09090909'/>
        </ceciliaObject>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name=3D'' muted=3D'false' solo=3D'false'/>
    <soundLayer name=3D'' muted=3D'false' solo=3D'false'/>
    <soundLayer name=3D'' muted=3D'false' solo=3D'false'/>
    <soundLayer name=3D'' muted=3D'false' solo=3D'false'/>
  </soundObject>
  <scratchPadData>
    <isWordWrapEnabled>true</isWordWrapEnabled>
    <scratchText/>
  </scratchPadData>
  <noteProcessorChainMap/>
  <renderStartTime>0.0</renderStartTime>
</blueData>

Re: [Bluemusic-users] [ot] - Request for translators

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Stephane,

That would be fantastic!  It's been absolutely wonderful how many people 
have approached me on translating.  Having blue in French would be great!

I will email you off list with information and a file to use for 
translation.

Thanks!!!

steven



stephane boussuge wrote:
> hi Steven
> i'm ok for the french translation if nobody want to
> make it.
> cheers
> stf
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I've just finished going over my program blue and
>>updating my string 
>>files for translation. Josep Comajuncosas has been
>>incredibly generous 
>>in offering to update the Catalan version of the
>>files, and the English 
>>files are already finished.  I am looking for any
>>help to update the 
>>Korean and Spanish translations, as well as looking
>>for new translations 
>>into different languages.
>>
>>Translation work consists of taking a copy of the
>>English language file 
>>and translating all the values in the key/value
>>pairs.  An example of 
>>the file is available here:
>>
>>
> 
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bluemusic/blue/src/blue/resources/locale/SystemMessages.properties?rev=1.21&view=markup
> 
>>By doing a translation of the file, it will make
>>blue render all text 
>>for its menus, labels, etc. in that language.  Any
>>help in this would be 
>>greatly appreciated!!!
>>
>>If you are interested, please email me and I can
>>send the most recent 
>>language file to translate as well as information on
>>how to edit 
>>(requires a Unicode editor that is able to
>>understand java-style escaped 
>>unicode strings, such as Yudit at yudit.org).
>>
>>Thanks,
>>steven
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Bluemusic-users] [ot] - Request for translators

[stephane b. <s_b...@ya...>]

hi Steven
i'm ok for the french translation if nobody want to
make it.
cheers
stf




 
> Hi All,
> 
> I've just finished going over my program blue and
> updating my string 
> files for translation. Josep Comajuncosas has been
> incredibly generous 
> in offering to update the Catalan version of the
> files, and the English 
> files are already finished.  I am looking for any
> help to update the 
> Korean and Spanish translations, as well as looking
> for new translations 
> into different languages.
> 
> Translation work consists of taking a copy of the
> English language file 
> and translating all the values in the key/value
> pairs.  An example of 
> the file is available here:
> 
>
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bluemusic/blue/src/blue/resources/locale/SystemMessages.properties?rev=1.21&view=markup
> 
> By doing a translation of the file, it will make
> blue render all text 
> for its menus, labels, etc. in that language.  Any
> help in this would be 
> greatly appreciated!!!
> 
> If you are interested, please email me and I can
> send the most recent 
> language file to translate as well as information on
> how to edit 
> (requires a Unicode editor that is able to
> understand java-style escaped 
> unicode strings, such as Yudit at yudit.org).
> 
> Thanks,
> steven
> 
> 
>
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[Bluemusic-users] Re: [Csnd] [ot] - Request for translators

[Gabriel M. <g.m...@ti...>]

I can do the Italian translation of the strings, if nobody has done it 
yet... But take into account that i'm not a Blue expert. Tell me what 
text editor I should use under Windows.

Cheers!

Gabriel


steven yi wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I've just finished going over my program blue and updating my string 
> files for translation. Josep Comajuncosas has been incredibly generous 
> in offering to update the Catalan version of the files, and the English 
> files are already finished.  I am looking for any help to update the 
> Korean and Spanish translations, as well as looking for new translations 
> into different languages.
> 
> Translation work consists of taking a copy of the English language file 
> and translating all the values in the key/value pairs.  An example of 
> the file is available here:
> 
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bluemusic/blue/src/blue/resources/locale/SystemMessages.properties?rev=1.21&view=markup 
> 
> 
> By doing a translation of the file, it will make blue render all text 
> for its menus, labels, etc. in that language.  Any help in this would be 
> greatly appreciated!!!
> 
> If you are interested, please email me and I can send the most recent 
> language file to translate as well as information on how to edit 
> (requires a Unicode editor that is able to understand java-style escaped 
> unicode strings, such as Yudit at yudit.org).
> 
> Thanks,
> steven

-- 
Gabriel Maldonado
http://csounds.com/maldonado
--

[Bluemusic-users] [ot] - Request for translators

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi All,

I've just finished going over my program blue and updating my string 
files for translation. Josep Comajuncosas has been incredibly generous 
in offering to update the Catalan version of the files, and the English 
files are already finished.  I am looking for any help to update the 
Korean and Spanish translations, as well as looking for new translations 
into different languages.

Translation work consists of taking a copy of the English language file 
and translating all the values in the key/value pairs.  An example of 
the file is available here:

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bluemusic/blue/src/blue/resources/locale/SystemMessages.properties?rev=1.21&view=markup

By doing a translation of the file, it will make blue render all text 
for its menus, labels, etc. in that language.  Any help in this would be 
greatly appreciated!!!

If you are interested, please email me and I can send the most recent 
language file to translate as well as information on how to edit 
(requires a Unicode editor that is able to understand java-style escaped 
unicode strings, such as Yudit at yudit.org).

Thanks,
steven

Re: [Bluemusic-users] Cecilian Objects

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Peiman,

I'm not sure what is going on with playback.  I have tested lightly with 
some modules and have been able to put them after each other.  Could you 
tell me what cecilia module you were using, and could you send me a 
.blue test file? It would help me to test the CeciliaModule as well, 
which is far from being bug-free! =o

steven



Pei...@ao... wrote:

>Hi Steven,
>
>I have been experimenting with the Cecilia modules recently. I can't make the time-line function normally when using more that one copy of a Cecilia object. For instance when I put one object at the start of the timeline and another at a different place (with say 10 sec. gap in between) the playback stops after the first object has been rendered (I have tried giving different names to multiple objects). Also when trying to superimpose Cecilia objects, the timing does not work according to the arrangement of these objects on the time-line. It may be that I have not set up the Cecilia configurations correctly... 
>
>I would very much appreciate any advice.
>
>Many thanks
>Peiman
>
>P.S. thanks so much for your great work and new releases; I have become addicted to the line objects!     
>
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[Bluemusic-users] Cecilian Objects

[<Pei...@ao...>]

Hi Steven,

I have been experimenting with the Cecilia modules recently. I can't make the time-line function normally when using more that one copy of a Cecilia object. For instance when I put one object at the start of the timeline and another at a different place (with say 10 sec. gap in between) the playback stops after the first object has been rendered (I have tried giving different names to multiple objects). Also when trying to superimpose Cecilia objects, the timing does not work according to the arrangement of these objects on the time-line. It may be that I have not set up the Cecilia configurations correctly... 

I would very much appreciate any advice.

Many thanks
Peiman

P.S. thanks so much for your great work and new releases; I have become addicted to the line objects!     

[Bluemusic-users] [announce] blue 0.94.0 beta 14b

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi All,

Due to the bug reported by Menno I pushed out a new release this 
morning.  The one noticable feature change will probably bee the marquee 
selection now defaulting to not drawing the alpha background.  It's a 
lot faster this way, but it can be switched to the old drawing if desired.

Thanks all for the bug reports!
steven


[CHANGE LOG]

 >Notes for 0.94.0 beta 14b<
[released 2004.02.15]

blue

    [update] - BSB - Knob - made label editable by double-clicking; for 
easier
            setting of exact values

    [update] - Marquee Selection - draws marquees without alpha 
background by
            default; can set to draw with alpha from ProgramOptions (drawing
            without alpha speeds up selection performance greatly)

    [fix] - PianoRoll - prevented insertion of note where notes exist

    [fix] - LineObject - start times of notes were not being set to 
start of
            soundObject

    [fix] - ScoreTimeCanvas - convert to generic score did not import 
generated
            isntruments into instrument library correctly

    [fix] - ScoreTimeCanvas - now sizes correctly on startup and when 
viewport
            resized

[Bluemusic-users] Re: Bluemusic-users digest, Vol 1 #122 - 2 msgs

[<Pei...@ao...>]

Hi Menno
I use winXP too. I change the titles by right clicking on the object and choosing the option "object properties". There you can see the object name at the top of the window and easily change it. When you click ENTER and close that window the new name will appear on the time line. I hope that helps
Peiman   

Re: [Bluemusic-users] new things

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Menno,

To change the name of the soundObject, you have to use the SoundObject 
Properties Dialog.  This is accesible from either pressing F3, using the 
  Window->SoundObjectProperties menu option, or rt-clicking on a 
soundObject and selecting "Show Sound Object Properties".

As for the LineObject, this is yet another mistake I did not catch. =( 
My apologies.  I have it fixed in CVS and will push out a beta 14b 
release tonight.

Thanks very much for the bug report!
steven


na bob wrote:
> Hello Steven
> 
> You asked me what do I mean when I try to change the
> name of a part in the Score. I mean the Objects on the
> scoreline, I cannot give them other names.'sound'or
> ''genericScore' are already in there and cannot be
> changed. (I think the little box with the letter S or
> L or F will suffice for the recognition of what types
> of objects they are.) I'd like to be able to give
> these objects also other titles like flute or drums.
> Maybe changing names works well in Linux but I use
> WindowsXP. 
> And now for something completely different: 
> I am trying to develop a Theremin instrument using the
> LineObject. Using the LineObject seems to me to be a
> versatile solution. However there are problems. when I
> look in the generated CSD, there seems to be a problem
> in the starting time (p1). When starting at 0.0 there
> are no problems (see example 1) but moving the parts
> around gives trouble (see example 2). The starting of
> the LineObject are not correct. I hope you find a way
> to correct it?
> The examples are in the .blue format
> 
> thanks for the attention,
> bye,
> Menno
> 
> example 1
> 
> <blueData version='0.94.0 beta 14a'>
>   <projectProperties>
>     <author></author>
>     <title>LineObject Example 2</title>
>     <channels>2</channels>
>     <commandLine>csound -d -o dac</commandLine>
>     <controlRate>44100</controlRate>
>     <sampleRate>44100</sampleRate>
>     <CsOptions></CsOptions>
>     <notes></notes>
>   </projectProperties>
>   <instrumentLibrary>
>     <instrumentCategory categoryName='Instrument
> Library' isRoot='true'/>
>   </instrumentLibrary>
>   <arrangement/>
>   <tables>
> f 1 0   8193    10  1</tables>
>   <soundObjectLibrary/>
>   <globalOrcSco>
>     <globalOrc>gkfr      init 0 
> gkamp	init	0
> gklfo	init	0
> gklfodpt	init	0</globalOrc>
>     <globalSco></globalSco>
>   </globalOrcSco>
>   <udo></udo>
>   <liveData>
>     <commandLine>csound -Wdo devaudio -L
> stdin</commandLine>
>   </liveData>
>   <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.PolyObject'>
>     <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
>     <startTime>0.0</startTime>
>     <name>root</name>
>     <timeBehavior>0</timeBehavior>
>     <noteProcessorChain/>
>     <isRoot>true</isRoot>
>     <pixelSecond>64</pixelSecond>
>     <heightIndex>2</heightIndex>
>     <snapEnabled>false</snapEnabled>
>     <snapValue>1.0</snapValue>
>     <timeDisplay>0</timeDisplay>
>     <timeUnit>5</timeUnit>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Comment'>
>         <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>0.0</startTime>
>         <name>Comment</name>
>         <commentText>an attempt to make a versatile
> Theremin.</commentText>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.LineObject'>
>        
> <subjectiveDuration>3.015625</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>0.0</startTime>
>         <name>lineObject</name>
>         <line name='fr' max='1500.0' min='440.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.2487395' y='0.964539'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.49825785' y='0.10209423'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.7456446' y='0.23036647'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.08376962'/>
>         </line>
>         <line name='amp' max='20000.0' min='0.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.5'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.31092438' y='0.20567375'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.5456583' y='0.9716312'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.69803923' y='0.13711584'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.92941177' y='0.9527187'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
>         </line>
>         <line name='lfo' max='10.0' min='5.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.35182074' y='0.06382978'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.6302521' y='1.0'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
>         </line>
>         <line name='lfodpt' max='100.0' min='10.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.99527186'/>
>         </line>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Sound'>
>        
> <subjectiveDuration>3.03125</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>0.0</startTime>
>         <name>sound</name>
>         <instrumentText>
> klfo	oscili	gklfodpt, gklfo, 1
> kenv      linen     gkamp, .01, p3, .01    
> asig      oscil     kenv, gkfr+klfo, 1  
>           outs       asig, asig </instrumentText>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.LineObject'>
>        
> <subjectiveDuration>4.390625</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>0.03125</startTime>
>         <name>lineObject</name>
>         <line name='fr2' max='1500.0' min='440.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.6324786'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.2627451' y='0.10541308'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.49825785' y='0.10209423'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.08376962'/>
>         </line>
>         <line name='amp2' max='20000.0' min='0.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.5'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.31092438' y='0.20567375'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.5456583' y='0.9716312'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.69803923' y='0.13711584'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.92941177' y='0.9527187'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
>         </line>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Sound'>
>        
> <subjectiveDuration>4.40625</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>0.03125</startTime>
>         <name>sound</name>
>         <instrumentText>
> kenv      linen     gkamp2, .01, p3, .01    
> asig     foscil    kenv, gkfr2, 1, 2, 3, 1  
>           outs       asig, asig </instrumentText>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>   </soundObject>
>   <scratchPadData>
>     <isWordWrapEnabled>true</isWordWrapEnabled>
>     <scratchText/>
>   </scratchPadData>
>   <noteProcessorChainMap/>
>   <renderStartTime>0.0</renderStartTime>
> </blueData>
> 
> example 2
> 
> <blueData version='0.94.0 beta 14a'>
>   <projectProperties>
>     <author></author>
>     <title>LineObject Example 2</title>
>     <channels>2</channels>
>     <commandLine>csound -d -o dac</commandLine>
>     <controlRate>44100</controlRate>
>     <sampleRate>44100</sampleRate>
>     <CsOptions></CsOptions>
>     <notes></notes>
>   </projectProperties>
>   <instrumentLibrary>
>     <instrumentCategory categoryName='Instrument
> Library' isRoot='true'/>
>   </instrumentLibrary>
>   <arrangement/>
>   <tables>
> f 1 0   8193    10  1</tables>
>   <soundObjectLibrary/>
>   <globalOrcSco>
>     <globalOrc>gkfr      init 0 
> gkamp	init	0
> gklfo	init	0
> gklfodpt	init	0</globalOrc>
>     <globalSco></globalSco>
>   </globalOrcSco>
>   <udo></udo>
>   <liveData>
>     <commandLine>csound -Wdo devaudio -L
> stdin</commandLine>
>   </liveData>
>   <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.PolyObject'>
>     <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
>     <startTime>0.0</startTime>
>     <name>root</name>
>     <timeBehavior>0</timeBehavior>
>     <noteProcessorChain/>
>     <isRoot>true</isRoot>
>     <pixelSecond>64</pixelSecond>
>     <heightIndex>2</heightIndex>
>     <snapEnabled>false</snapEnabled>
>     <snapValue>1.0</snapValue>
>     <timeDisplay>0</timeDisplay>
>     <timeUnit>5</timeUnit>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Comment'>
>         <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>0.0</startTime>
>         <name>Comment</name>
>         <commentText>an attempt to make a versatile
> Theremin.</commentText>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.LineObject'>
>        
> <subjectiveDuration>3.015625</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>0.0</startTime>
>         <name>lineObject</name>
>         <line name='fr' max='1500.0' min='440.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.2487395' y='0.964539'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.49825785' y='0.10209423'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.7456446' y='0.23036647'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.08376962'/>
>         </line>
>         <line name='amp' max='20000.0' min='0.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.5'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.31092438' y='0.20567375'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.5456583' y='0.9716312'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.69803923' y='0.13711584'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.92941177' y='0.9527187'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
>         </line>
>         <line name='lfo' max='10.0' min='5.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.35182074' y='0.06382978'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.6302521' y='1.0'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
>         </line>
>         <line name='lfodpt' max='100.0' min='10.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.99527186'/>
>         </line>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Sound'>
>        
> <subjectiveDuration>3.03125</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>0.0</startTime>
>         <name>sound</name>
>         <instrumentText>
> klfo	oscili	gklfodpt, gklfo, 1
> kenv      linen     gkamp, .01, p3, .01    
> asig      oscil     kenv, gkfr+klfo, 1  
>           outs       asig, asig </instrumentText>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.LineObject'>
>        
> <subjectiveDuration>4.390625</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>4.234375</startTime>
>         <name>lineObject</name>
>         <line name='fr2' max='1500.0' min='440.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.6324786'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.2627451' y='0.10541308'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.49825785' y='0.10209423'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.08376962'/>
>         </line>
>         <line name='amp2' max='20000.0' min='0.0'>
>           <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.5'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.31092438' y='0.20567375'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.5456583' y='0.9716312'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.69803923' y='0.13711584'/>
>           <linePoint x='0.92941177' y='0.9527187'/>
>           <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
>         </line>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>     <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
>       <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Sound'>
>        
> <subjectiveDuration>4.40625</subjectiveDuration>
>         <startTime>4.234375</startTime>
>         <name>sound</name>
>         <instrumentText>
> kenv      linen     gkamp2, .01, p3, .01    
> asig     foscil    kenv, gkfr2, 1, 2, 3, 1  
>           outs       asig, asig </instrumentText>
>       </soundObject>
>     </soundLayer>
>   </soundObject>
>   <scratchPadData>
>     <isWordWrapEnabled>true</isWordWrapEnabled>
>     <scratchText/>
>   </scratchPadData>
>   <noteProcessorChainMap/>
>   <renderStartTime>0.0</renderStartTime>
> </blueData>
> 
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[Bluemusic-users] new things

[na b. <nab...@ya...>]

Hello Steven

You asked me what do I mean when I try to change the
name of a part in the Score. I mean the Objects on the
scoreline, I cannot give them other names.'sound'or
''genericScore' are already in there and cannot be
changed. (I think the little box with the letter S or
L or F will suffice for the recognition of what types
of objects they are.) I'd like to be able to give
these objects also other titles like flute or drums.
Maybe changing names works well in Linux but I use
WindowsXP. 
And now for something completely different: 
I am trying to develop a Theremin instrument using the
LineObject. Using the LineObject seems to me to be a
versatile solution. However there are problems. when I
look in the generated CSD, there seems to be a problem
in the starting time (p1). When starting at 0.0 there
are no problems (see example 1) but moving the parts
around gives trouble (see example 2). The starting of
the LineObject are not correct. I hope you find a way
to correct it?
The examples are in the .blue format

thanks for the attention,
bye,
Menno

example 1

<blueData version='0.94.0 beta 14a'>
  <projectProperties>
    <author></author>
    <title>LineObject Example 2</title>
    <channels>2</channels>
    <commandLine>csound -d -o dac</commandLine>
    <controlRate>44100</controlRate>
    <sampleRate>44100</sampleRate>
    <CsOptions></CsOptions>
    <notes></notes>
  </projectProperties>
  <instrumentLibrary>
    <instrumentCategory categoryName='Instrument
Library' isRoot='true'/>
  </instrumentLibrary>
  <arrangement/>
  <tables>
f 1 0   8193    10  1</tables>
  <soundObjectLibrary/>
  <globalOrcSco>
    <globalOrc>gkfr      init 0 
gkamp	init	0
gklfo	init	0
gklfodpt	init	0</globalOrc>
    <globalSco></globalSco>
  </globalOrcSco>
  <udo></udo>
  <liveData>
    <commandLine>csound -Wdo devaudio -L
stdin</commandLine>
  </liveData>
  <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.PolyObject'>
    <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
    <startTime>0.0</startTime>
    <name>root</name>
    <timeBehavior>0</timeBehavior>
    <noteProcessorChain/>
    <isRoot>true</isRoot>
    <pixelSecond>64</pixelSecond>
    <heightIndex>2</heightIndex>
    <snapEnabled>false</snapEnabled>
    <snapValue>1.0</snapValue>
    <timeDisplay>0</timeDisplay>
    <timeUnit>5</timeUnit>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Comment'>
        <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.0</startTime>
        <name>Comment</name>
        <commentText>an attempt to make a versatile
Theremin.</commentText>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.LineObject'>
       
<subjectiveDuration>3.015625</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.0</startTime>
        <name>lineObject</name>
        <line name='fr' max='1500.0' min='440.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
          <linePoint x='0.2487395' y='0.964539'/>
          <linePoint x='0.49825785' y='0.10209423'/>
          <linePoint x='0.7456446' y='0.23036647'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.08376962'/>
        </line>
        <line name='amp' max='20000.0' min='0.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.5'/>
          <linePoint x='0.31092438' y='0.20567375'/>
          <linePoint x='0.5456583' y='0.9716312'/>
          <linePoint x='0.69803923' y='0.13711584'/>
          <linePoint x='0.92941177' y='0.9527187'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
        </line>
        <line name='lfo' max='10.0' min='5.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
          <linePoint x='0.35182074' y='0.06382978'/>
          <linePoint x='0.6302521' y='1.0'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
        </line>
        <line name='lfodpt' max='100.0' min='10.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.99527186'/>
        </line>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Sound'>
       
<subjectiveDuration>3.03125</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.0</startTime>
        <name>sound</name>
        <instrumentText>
klfo	oscili	gklfodpt, gklfo, 1
kenv      linen     gkamp, .01, p3, .01    
asig      oscil     kenv, gkfr+klfo, 1  
          outs       asig, asig </instrumentText>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.LineObject'>
       
<subjectiveDuration>4.390625</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.03125</startTime>
        <name>lineObject</name>
        <line name='fr2' max='1500.0' min='440.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.6324786'/>
          <linePoint x='0.2627451' y='0.10541308'/>
          <linePoint x='0.49825785' y='0.10209423'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.08376962'/>
        </line>
        <line name='amp2' max='20000.0' min='0.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.5'/>
          <linePoint x='0.31092438' y='0.20567375'/>
          <linePoint x='0.5456583' y='0.9716312'/>
          <linePoint x='0.69803923' y='0.13711584'/>
          <linePoint x='0.92941177' y='0.9527187'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
        </line>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Sound'>
       
<subjectiveDuration>4.40625</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.03125</startTime>
        <name>sound</name>
        <instrumentText>
kenv      linen     gkamp2, .01, p3, .01    
asig     foscil    kenv, gkfr2, 1, 2, 3, 1  
          outs       asig, asig </instrumentText>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
  </soundObject>
  <scratchPadData>
    <isWordWrapEnabled>true</isWordWrapEnabled>
    <scratchText/>
  </scratchPadData>
  <noteProcessorChainMap/>
  <renderStartTime>0.0</renderStartTime>
</blueData>

example 2

<blueData version='0.94.0 beta 14a'>
  <projectProperties>
    <author></author>
    <title>LineObject Example 2</title>
    <channels>2</channels>
    <commandLine>csound -d -o dac</commandLine>
    <controlRate>44100</controlRate>
    <sampleRate>44100</sampleRate>
    <CsOptions></CsOptions>
    <notes></notes>
  </projectProperties>
  <instrumentLibrary>
    <instrumentCategory categoryName='Instrument
Library' isRoot='true'/>
  </instrumentLibrary>
  <arrangement/>
  <tables>
f 1 0   8193    10  1</tables>
  <soundObjectLibrary/>
  <globalOrcSco>
    <globalOrc>gkfr      init 0 
gkamp	init	0
gklfo	init	0
gklfodpt	init	0</globalOrc>
    <globalSco></globalSco>
  </globalOrcSco>
  <udo></udo>
  <liveData>
    <commandLine>csound -Wdo devaudio -L
stdin</commandLine>
  </liveData>
  <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.PolyObject'>
    <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
    <startTime>0.0</startTime>
    <name>root</name>
    <timeBehavior>0</timeBehavior>
    <noteProcessorChain/>
    <isRoot>true</isRoot>
    <pixelSecond>64</pixelSecond>
    <heightIndex>2</heightIndex>
    <snapEnabled>false</snapEnabled>
    <snapValue>1.0</snapValue>
    <timeDisplay>0</timeDisplay>
    <timeUnit>5</timeUnit>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Comment'>
        <subjectiveDuration>2.0</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.0</startTime>
        <name>Comment</name>
        <commentText>an attempt to make a versatile
Theremin.</commentText>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.LineObject'>
       
<subjectiveDuration>3.015625</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.0</startTime>
        <name>lineObject</name>
        <line name='fr' max='1500.0' min='440.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
          <linePoint x='0.2487395' y='0.964539'/>
          <linePoint x='0.49825785' y='0.10209423'/>
          <linePoint x='0.7456446' y='0.23036647'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.08376962'/>
        </line>
        <line name='amp' max='20000.0' min='0.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.5'/>
          <linePoint x='0.31092438' y='0.20567375'/>
          <linePoint x='0.5456583' y='0.9716312'/>
          <linePoint x='0.69803923' y='0.13711584'/>
          <linePoint x='0.92941177' y='0.9527187'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
        </line>
        <line name='lfo' max='10.0' min='5.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
          <linePoint x='0.35182074' y='0.06382978'/>
          <linePoint x='0.6302521' y='1.0'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
        </line>
        <line name='lfodpt' max='100.0' min='10.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.0'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.99527186'/>
        </line>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Sound'>
       
<subjectiveDuration>3.03125</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>0.0</startTime>
        <name>sound</name>
        <instrumentText>
klfo	oscili	gklfodpt, gklfo, 1
kenv      linen     gkamp, .01, p3, .01    
asig      oscil     kenv, gkfr+klfo, 1  
          outs       asig, asig </instrumentText>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.LineObject'>
       
<subjectiveDuration>4.390625</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>4.234375</startTime>
        <name>lineObject</name>
        <line name='fr2' max='1500.0' min='440.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.6324786'/>
          <linePoint x='0.2627451' y='0.10541308'/>
          <linePoint x='0.49825785' y='0.10209423'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.08376962'/>
        </line>
        <line name='amp2' max='20000.0' min='0.0'>
          <linePoint x='0.0' y='0.5'/>
          <linePoint x='0.31092438' y='0.20567375'/>
          <linePoint x='0.5456583' y='0.9716312'/>
          <linePoint x='0.69803923' y='0.13711584'/>
          <linePoint x='0.92941177' y='0.9527187'/>
          <linePoint x='1.0' y='0.0'/>
        </line>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
    <soundLayer name='' muted='false' solo='false'>
      <soundObject type='blue.soundObject.Sound'>
       
<subjectiveDuration>4.40625</subjectiveDuration>
        <startTime>4.234375</startTime>
        <name>sound</name>
        <instrumentText>
kenv      linen     gkamp2, .01, p3, .01    
asig     foscil    kenv, gkfr2, 1, 2, 3, 1  
          outs       asig, asig </instrumentText>
      </soundObject>
    </soundLayer>
  </soundObject>
  <scratchPadData>
    <isWordWrapEnabled>true</isWordWrapEnabled>
    <scratchText/>
  </scratchPadData>
  <noteProcessorChainMap/>
  <renderStartTime>0.0</renderStartTime>
</blueData>


		
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Re: [Bluemusic-users] things

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Menno,

Nice to hear from you!  Let me address each of your points one by one:

na bob wrote:

>- In the scoretab I can not change the name of the
>part. I know this was possible in earlier releases of
>Blue.
>  
>
I am not quite sure what you are meaning by "part".  I just tested and I 
could change the name of soundObjects and layers on the timeline without 
problem.  Could you elaborate a little bit?

>- I try to configure my sound editor in the Manage
>Tools but without any luck. I think the link has been
>cut. But maybe the idea I have is a better solution:
>(in the score) the possibility to rightclick on a wav
>or a just frozen wav and choose to jump to a
>soundeditor (which path is known in the Preferences),
>make some alterations and reinstall the wav into Blue
>  
>
I can see the value in this request, but it seems a little complicated 
for me to figure out how to implement.  I'll need a little time to 
figure this out; if anyone has some implementation and ideas on how the 
user ingeration should flow, I'd love to hear them!

>- the pianoroll is a great addition to the program.
>But because the image of the notes in the pianoroll do
>not have any information in them, they can be much
>smaller so one can see at least 3 or 4 octaves at once
>  
>
Yes, this is important to me as well to implement.  I have had on my 
list to put in zoom buttons, much like they are on the score timeline.  
I will be looking into this shortly.

>- I have the feeling that the soundfontviewer does not
>work the way it should work; it calls winsound and
>this program shows -in a rush- the contents of the
>soundfont bank I selected. Winsound ends with the
>'press OK to exit' message so one is not able to
>scroll throu the contents of the soundfont.  I guess
>that the empty black boxes to the right from the
>soundfontviewer was the one that has to be filled with
>these contents? 
>  
>
The SoundFontViewer is hardcoded to call the command "csound" as its 
command, and this is expected to be a commandline version of csound.  
The reason is is that blue will call csound and capture its output, then 
parse that to display the soundfont information.  If using winsound, the 
output doesn't go out to the console but instead goes to a window, so 
blue has nothing parse. 

I should make this more configurable sometime, but unfortunately have 
not had much time to do so.

>- Is it possible to give more depth to the Undo
>(Control Z) level? Sometimes I throw too much away or
>change too much and the Undo doesn't work.
>  
>
Undo shouldn't have any limits, but undo as a whole is unfortunately not 
very complete and only partially functional.  This is always on my list 
of things to address and make better, but alas requires some deeper 
restructuring than it seems I ever have the time for.  I will hopefully 
find the time to really clear this aspect of the code up sometime.

Thanks for the feedback and will hopefully progress on these issues shortly!
steven

[Bluemusic-users] things

[na b. <nab...@ya...>]

Hi Steven,

(I do not have acces to internet all the time, so the
content of my messages are somewhat erradic.)
there are some little things in the use of Blue I
encounter that could be improved (to my taste anyway) 
Here we go:

- In the scoretab I can not change the name of the
part. I know this was possible in earlier releases of
Blue.

- I try to configure my sound editor in the Manage
Tools but without any luck. I think the link has been
cut. But maybe the idea I have is a better solution:
(in the score) the possibility to rightclick on a wav
or a just frozen wav and choose to jump to a
soundeditor (which path is known in the Preferences),
make some alterations and reinstall the wav into Blue.

- the pianoroll is a great addition to the program.
But because the image of the notes in the pianoroll do
not have any information in them, they can be much
smaller so one can see at least 3 or 4 octaves at once

I'd like to mention another thing that at the moment
is not working like I think it should. I know this is
not a huge bug at all but I thought I mention it
anyway.
- I have the feeling that the soundfontviewer does not
work the way it should work; it calls winsound and
this program shows -in a rush- the contents of the
soundfont bank I selected. Winsound ends with the
'press OK to exit' message so one is not able to
scroll throu the contents of the soundfont.  I guess
that the empty black boxes to the right from the
soundfontviewer was the one that has to be filled with
these contents? 

- Is it possible to give more depth to the Undo
(Control Z) level? Sometimes I throw too much away or
change too much and the Undo doesn't work.

thanks for your attention
until next time,


bye,
Menno

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Re: [Bluemusic-users] Pattern Editor SoundObject

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Adnres,

Sorry for my late reply!  Things have been busy for me as well.

The idea of the pattern editor would be similar to Patterns, but each 
box would not represent a pattern but a single note, as the purpose 
would be more focused towards drum parts.  This would allow to make 
graphically editing of parameters much easier.  I wasn't thinking graphs 
but more like velociy editing using a vertical slider of some sort, but 
perhaps graphs would work well too.  (Ideas here would most likely 
transfer over to the PianoRoll, where I would like to introduce some 
graphing capabilities and user-definable fields which would be create 
replacable strings to use in the note template.)

Still just brainstorming the idea.  Any suggestions on other programs to 
look at as models, or any feedback very much appreciated!
steven


Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Hi Steven,
> Sorry for the late reply... I've been busy, and solving a problem with
> using sourceforge's lists from this address.
> Sounds very cool, like patterns inside blue, right?
> Maybe the possibility to graphically alter p-fields would be nice, sort
> of like the cecilia modules where you have several graphs (or points in
> this case) which you can view and modify easily. You would define in the
> instrument what the p-fields do.
>
> Cheers,
> Andres

Re: [Bluemusic-users] Re: Line object in 0.94.0 beta 14

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Mario,

Glad to hear you're enjoying blue!  It's always nice to know other 
people are finding blue useful in their own musical work.  ^_^

As for the bug, it is my fault; I have the code set to technically set 
the value as float, but because I made an error in setting up the Object 
type for the column as an Integer, it won't allow anything but 
integers.  I have published a beta 14a to fix this bug (uploading now, 
should be available in the next ten minutes).  Thanks very much for the 
bug report and apologies for not testing this soundObject well enough!

As for line/curve/random features, it should be possible, just a matter 
of spending time to implement it. I'll try to get it in the next 
release; if you could, it'd be great if you could report it as a RFE 
(Request for Feature Enhancement) on the Sourceforge page for blue 
(accessible from the help menu as "Request a Feature".  You'll need a 
SourceForge account to add a request (they're free!), so no worries if 
you don't want to do that, but it's very helpful for me to keep track of 
what I should prioritize.  (The LineObject itself was a RFE by Andres 
Cabrera!)

Editing cecilia code is feasible but with some reservations; I had 
worked it out in my head to allow this, but I had not yet implemented.  
The idea is that it would behave like the BlueSynthBuilder in that there 
would be an edit mode toggle.  If you edit, then switch back, it'd parse 
to see if the input was valid for the interface, if so, to see what 
objects may have been removed and remove values stored for those 
objects, and then add default versions of new objects.  Hopefully I will 
be able to spend more time on CeciliaModule in the next week or two, so 
I will keep this request in mind when working on it.

Thanks for reporting the bugs and for the feedback!
steven

Mario Pantin wrote:

> Hi Steven,
>
> I have been using Blue for some time now, and find it an amazing 
> composition environment, thanks so much for your work!
>
> I was very happy to see that the new beta was posted yesterday. As 
> Peiman already mentioned (hi peiman!) in beta 13 it was not possible 
> in the new line object to edit the max and min values of the lines, 
> nor their names. I found myself having to manually edit the .blue 
> generated code in a text editor in order to edit these values. I am 
> using Blue in a WinXP pc.
>
> Unfortunately, the problem persists somehow in beta 14. It is now 
> possible to edit the line name and the max and min values, but only if 
> you enter integer values. Blue would not let me input floats in these 
> fields.
>
> A request: would it be possible to incorporate some line, curve and 
> random generating functions into the line object, a la Cecilia?
>
> Also, It would be great if it was possible to directly edit cecilia 
> code withi n Blue. Is this feasible?
>
> Again, thanks so much for your work developing this amazing program.
>
> Regards,
> Mario Pantin
>
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Re: [Bluemusic-users] I can now edit the line object!

[steven yi <ste...@cs...>]

Hi Peiman,

No worries about spending my time!  I've probably spent more of yours at 
this point with the buggy releases! =o

I appreciate your feedback and questions are always welcome.

^_^

steven

Pei...@ao... wrote:

> Hello again,
> I just found out why I couldn't edit the numbers in the line object 
> table. I was writing the numbers as they appear on the table in the 
> default setting (20.0), it now works beautifully!
> Sorry to take up your time
> Yours
> Peiman   

[Bluemusic-users] Re: Line object in 0.94.0 beta 14

[Mario P. <mar...@ya...>]

Hi Steven, 

I have been using Blue for some time now, and find it an amazing composition environment, thanks so much for your work! 

I was very happy to see that the new beta was posted yesterday. As Peiman already mentioned (hi peiman!) in beta 13 it was not possible in the new line object to edit the max and min values of the lines, nor their names. I found myself having to manually edit the .blue generated code in a text editor in order to edit these values. I am using Blue in a WinXP pc. 

Unfortunately, the problem persists somehow in beta 14. It is now possible to edit the line name and the max and min values, but only if you enter integer values. Blue would not let me input floats in these fields. 

A request: would it be possible to incorporate some line, curve and random generating functions into the line object, a la Cecilia? 

Also, It would be great if it was possible to directly edit cecilia code within Blue. Is this feasible? 

Again, thanks so much for your work developing this amazing program. 

Regards, 
Mario Pantin 



		
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