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I now have a windows release candidate on my web site www.cftb.net

Having problems with the deb builder debreate building a deb version

Ken

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I have put a short demo video on youtube showing my progress so far, in 
re-writing PyKaraoke.

Watch it at....

https://youtu.be/VjWmAS35i6o

Ken

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Still struggling with the re-write, I now have a 64 bit Windows 10 
netbook, along with my 64 bit Linux Mint XFCE, and I am now working 
simultaneously on both systems.

I am having a lot of issues with deprecated Python calls on the Windows 
10, it even crashed out completely on ProcessIdle saying no such 
function (now fixed).

I am slowly taming it though, and now have VLC as the native player, so 
it can seamlessly play mp3/cdg and mp4, I also have the beginnings of a 
ticker running along the bottom of the play screen.

Lots to do again now, but still enjoying the experience.

Do you still develop software Kelvin, and are you still a Linux user?

I have not used Windows for at least 20 year, and really hating the 
Windows 10 netbook.

Happy new year from a hot and Sunny Benidorm

Ken

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That should be about everything now on my github.

Maybe you could give it a try Kelvin and see what you think?

Some stuff from the original has been removed, such as the kamakazi, 
which would not work on the 100k files I have been testing with.

The background music seems to start up nicely in between karaoke songs, 
and it also allows for a very simple karaoke system if you only have say 
10 karaoke songs.

You can install them as background music without using the data base.

I am using Linux Mint XFCE 18

Ken


On 12/02/2017 11:20 AM, Kelvin Lawson wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> Sounds excellent, you're bringing it forward significantly. Over the 
> years lots of people have hoped we would add features for professional 
> KJ use.
>
> Is it still suitable for home use with the new version or should we 
> split it into two modes (home / KJ)?
>
> Best,
> Kelvin.
>
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 at 08:34 Ken Williams <ke...@ke... 
> <mailto:ke...@ke...>> wrote:
>
>     I have now got a stage further in all the changes to the PyKaraoke
>     source code.
>
>     Sorry but the tree browser had to go, someone spent many hours writing
>     it, but I think I may have found a nicer solution.
>
>     I have also got it to automatically play background music between
>     karaoke songs, as it seems to be what all the professional systems
>     do here.
>
>     Unfortunately this can only be cdg or kar so far, as it's all
>     pykaraoke
>     allows as valid extensions.
>
>     I have now got the skeleton of a help system working.
>
>     I am planning to remove the printer support, it can always be in a
>     separate program, but it does not work on my current Linux system, and
>     since for test purposes I have access to the bars hard drive with over
>     100,000 karaoke songs, printing them all out is just not practical.
>
>     So basically I have two tabs working so far on the main screen, the
>     first tab works in the same way it always has.
>
>     Tab two has my equivalent of the tree browser, you use it in a similar
>     way, find files, and add them to the right hand play list window, the
>     difference it this is the background music, everything in this window
>     plays between karaoke songs on the main tab one window.
>
>     Ken
>
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>
>     A Unix/Linux user since 1983.
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Hi Ken,

Sounds excellent, you're bringing it forward significantly. Over the years
lots of people have hoped we would add features for professional KJ use.

Is it still suitable for home use with the new version or should we split
it into two modes (home / KJ)?

Best,
Kelvin.

On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 at 08:34 Ken Williams <ke...@ke...> wrote:

> I have now got a stage further in all the changes to the PyKaraoke
> source code.
>
> Sorry but the tree browser had to go, someone spent many hours writing
> it, but I think I may have found a nicer solution.
>
> I have also got it to automatically play background music between
> karaoke songs, as it seems to be what all the professional systems do here.
>
> Unfortunately this can only be cdg or kar so far, as it's all pykaraoke
> allows as valid extensions.
>
> I have now got the skeleton of a help system working.
>
> I am planning to remove the printer support, it can always be in a
> separate program, but it does not work on my current Linux system, and
> since for test purposes I have access to the bars hard drive with over
> 100,000 karaoke songs, printing them all out is just not practical.
>
> So basically I have two tabs working so far on the main screen, the
> first tab works in the same way it always has.
>
> Tab two has my equivalent of the tree browser, you use it in a similar
> way, find files, and add them to the right hand play list window, the
> difference it this is the background music, everything in this window
> plays between karaoke songs on the main tab one window.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Ken Williams.
> Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.
>
> A Unix/Linux user since 1983.
>
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I did not mention that I have now got 10 sound effects buttons, the 
intention is that sound effecs such as clapping, and also favourite 
songs can be played at the press of a dedicated button.

-- 
Ken Williams.
Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.

A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

I have now got a stage further in all the changes to the PyKaraoke 
source code.

Sorry but the tree browser had to go, someone spent many hours writing 
it, but I think I may have found a nicer solution.

I have also got it to automatically play background music between 
karaoke songs, as it seems to be what all the professional systems do here.

Unfortunately this can only be cdg or kar so far, as it's all pykaraoke 
allows as valid extensions.

I have now got the skeleton of a help system working.

I am planning to remove the printer support, it can always be in a 
separate program, but it does not work on my current Linux system, and 
since for test purposes I have access to the bars hard drive with over 
100,000 karaoke songs, printing them all out is just not practical.

So basically I have two tabs working so far on the main screen, the 
first tab works in the same way it always has.

Tab two has my equivalent of the tree browser, you use it in a similar 
way, find files, and add them to the right hand play list window, the 
difference it this is the background music, everything in this window 
plays between karaoke songs on the main tab one window.

Ken

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Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.

A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

Well I am still having great fun tearing into the source code of 
pykaraoke, it's a long slow job, as python is not a language i am 
familiar with, so it's a long term project.

I am currently working as a karaoke DJ here in Benidorm, so I am trying 
to add features I particularly like in the professional systems I am using.

Here is a screen shot of the progress so far.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dgar-lbRLXXuXSDTz6RrTJhwy54B-jt

I am setting up some tabs on the main screen for extra options, so far 
only the main tab is fully working, with a progress bar and various 
cosmetic changes.

Ken

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A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

Hopefully you should now have a pull request for two files...

Ken


On 10/24/2017 04:32 PM, Kelvin Lawson wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
>     I have never really used GitHub, so i will have to figure that out and
>     post my changes.
>
>     I assume I start my own repo called pykaraoke then somehow link it to
>     the official one? I really have no idea.
>
>
> There should be some guides on the Github website but essentially you 
> can create your own "fork" of the PyKaraoke source code via the Github 
> website. Then you can download the source from your own fork and work 
> with that. When you're ready, you can submit changes back to the main 
> project by issuing a Pull Request.
>
> Thanks,
> Kelvin.
>
>
>     On holiday at present so using a smaller computer and no printer,
>     working with a printer is something we take for granted, but writing
>     code with no printer I find hard.
>
>     Ken
>
>
>     On 10/24/2017 12:21 PM, kar...@gm...
>     <mailto:kar...@gm...> wrote:
>     > RoxBox and some other commercial programs can do partial string
>     search
>     > exactly as you describe. $80 for RoxBox.
>     >
>     > I am not involved in the company, but I know the guy who makes
>     it as he is
>     > local to me in Texas:
>     > http://www.roxbox.net/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1&idcategory=3
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Ken Williams [mailto:ke...@ke... <mailto:ke...@ke...>]
>     > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:42 AM
>     > To: pyk...@li...
>     <mailto:pyk...@li...>
>     > Subject: [Pykaraoke-discuss] PyKaraoke
>     >
>     > As an additional comment, i would say that the search on
>     Pykaraoke is
>     > brilliant, even as it stands.
>     >
>     > For example to find "Elvis Presley In The Ghetto" with PyKaraoke
>     you can
>     > just enter "elv pre ghe" and you have it.
>     >
>     > But with the software I used in a local bar here, it will search
>     on a title,
>     > or a singer, but not both, which shocked me on software that is so
>     > expensive.
>     >
>     > Ken
>     >
>     > --
>     > Ken Williams.
>     > Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.
>     >
>     > A Unix/Linux user since 1983.
>     >
>     >
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A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

Hi Ken,


> I have never really used GitHub, so i will have to figure that out and
> post my changes.
>
> I assume I start my own repo called pykaraoke then somehow link it to
> the official one? I really have no idea.
>

There should be some guides on the Github website but essentially you can
create your own "fork" of the PyKaraoke source code via the Github website.
Then you can download the source from your own fork and work with that.
When you're ready, you can submit changes back to the main project by
issuing a Pull Request.

Thanks,
Kelvin.

>
> On holiday at present so using a smaller computer and no printer,
> working with a printer is something we take for granted, but writing
> code with no printer I find hard.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 10/24/2017 12:21 PM, kar...@gm... wrote:
> > RoxBox and some other commercial programs can do partial string search
> > exactly as you describe. $80 for RoxBox.
> >
> > I am not involved in the company, but I know the guy who makes it as he
> is
> > local to me in Texas:
> > http://www.roxbox.net/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1&idcategory=3
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Williams [mailto:ke...@ke...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:42 AM
> > To: pyk...@li...
> > Subject: [Pykaraoke-discuss] PyKaraoke
> >
> > As an additional comment, i would say that the search on Pykaraoke is
> > brilliant, even as it stands.
> >
> > For example to find "Elvis Presley In The Ghetto" with PyKaraoke you can
> > just enter "elv pre ghe" and you have it.
> >
> > But with the software I used in a local bar here, it will search on a
> title,
> > or a singer, but not both, which shocked me on software that is so
> > expensive.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --
> > Ken Williams.
> > Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.
> >
> > A Unix/Linux user since 1983.
> >
> >
> >
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>
> A Unix/Linux user since 1983.
>
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Ken, I totally understand. I wasn't at all suggesting that you should tray Py for a commercial program. I was just addressing your thought that commercial programs didn't or couldn't do this.

Personally, I would love to even try Py, because I'm a karaoke hobbyist. However, I don’t know much of anything about code. I don’t know how to compile a Windows version of etc.......:(




-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Williams [mailto:ke...@ke...] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:10 AM
To: kar...@gm...; pyk...@li...
Subject: Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] PyKaraoke

That sounds better, but personally I much prefer tinkering with pykaraoke to try and make it do as I want, I am a hobbyist software writer, so to actually buy something I could not then re-write would bore me.

I have never really used GitHub, so i will have to figure that out and post my changes.

I assume I start my own repo called pykaraoke then somehow link it to the official one? I really have no idea.

On holiday at present so using a smaller computer and no printer, working with a printer is something we take for granted, but writing code with no printer I find hard.

Ken


On 10/24/2017 12:21 PM, kar...@gm... wrote:
> RoxBox and some other commercial programs can do partial string search 
> exactly as you describe. $80 for RoxBox.
>
> I am not involved in the company, but I know the guy who makes it as 
> he is local to me in Texas:
> http://www.roxbox.net/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1&idcategory=3
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Williams [mailto:ke...@ke...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:42 AM
> To: pyk...@li...
> Subject: [Pykaraoke-discuss] PyKaraoke
>
> As an additional comment, i would say that the search on Pykaraoke is 
> brilliant, even as it stands.
>
> For example to find "Elvis Presley In The Ghetto" with PyKaraoke you 
> can just enter "elv pre ghe" and you have it.
>
> But with the software I used in a local bar here, it will search on a 
> title, or a singer, but not both, which shocked me on software that is 
> so expensive.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Ken Williams.
> Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.
>
> A Unix/Linux user since 1983.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.

A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

That sounds better, but personally I much prefer tinkering with 
pykaraoke to try and make it do as I want, I am a hobbyist software 
writer, so to actually buy something I could not then re-write would 
bore me.

I have never really used GitHub, so i will have to figure that out and 
post my changes.

I assume I start my own repo called pykaraoke then somehow link it to 
the official one? I really have no idea.

On holiday at present so using a smaller computer and no printer, 
working with a printer is something we take for granted, but writing 
code with no printer I find hard.

Ken


On 10/24/2017 12:21 PM, kar...@gm... wrote:
> RoxBox and some other commercial programs can do partial string search
> exactly as you describe. $80 for RoxBox.
>
> I am not involved in the company, but I know the guy who makes it as he is
> local to me in Texas:
> http://www.roxbox.net/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1&idcategory=3
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Williams [mailto:ke...@ke...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:42 AM
> To: pyk...@li...
> Subject: [Pykaraoke-discuss] PyKaraoke
>
> As an additional comment, i would say that the search on Pykaraoke is
> brilliant, even as it stands.
>
> For example to find "Elvis Presley In The Ghetto" with PyKaraoke you can
> just enter "elv pre ghe" and you have it.
>
> But with the software I used in a local bar here, it will search on a title,
> or a singer, but not both, which shocked me on software that is so
> expensive.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Ken Williams.
> Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.
>
> A Unix/Linux user since 1983.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

RoxBox and some other commercial programs can do partial string search
exactly as you describe. $80 for RoxBox.

I am not involved in the company, but I know the guy who makes it as he is
local to me in Texas:
http://www.roxbox.net/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1&idcategory=3 




-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Williams [mailto:ke...@ke...] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:42 AM
To: pyk...@li...
Subject: [Pykaraoke-discuss] PyKaraoke

As an additional comment, i would say that the search on Pykaraoke is
brilliant, even as it stands.

For example to find "Elvis Presley In The Ghetto" with PyKaraoke you can
just enter "elv pre ghe" and you have it.

But with the software I used in a local bar here, it will search on a title,
or a singer, but not both, which shocked me on software that is so
expensive.

Ken

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As an additional comment, i would say that the search on Pykaraoke is 
brilliant, even as it stands.

For example to find "Elvis Presley In The Ghetto" with PyKaraoke you can 
just enter "elv pre ghe" and you have it.

But with the software I used in a local bar here, it will search on a 
title, or a singer, but not both, which shocked me on software that is 
so expensive.

Ken

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A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

Thanks Kevin I will look into that, I find that the program is 
beautifully written, with lots of really helpful comments. it's a lesson 
to me on how Python should be done.

I do however miss my ancient Epsom dot matrix printer, i could print out 
someone's code on a yards long piece of endless paper, to really try and 
understand it.

Ken


On 10/24/2017 10:12 AM, Kelvin Lawson wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
>     Anyway I re-wrote a bit of the search routine in PyKaraoke to do a
>
>     search while typing, and was wondering if anyone out there would be
>     interested in trying my changes and giving me a second opinion.
>
>
> The best thing to do would be to submit a pull request on Github: 
> https://github.com/kelvinlawson/pykaraoke
>
> That way people can easily test out your changes.
>
> Thanks for contributing!
>
> Kelvin.

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A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

Hi Ken,


> Anyway I re-wrote a bit of the search routine in PyKaraoke to do a
>
search while typing, and was wondering if anyone out there would be
> interested in trying my changes and giving me a second opinion.
>

The best thing to do would be to submit a pull request on Github:
https://github.com/kelvinlawson/pykaraoke

That way people can easily test out your changes.

Thanks for contributing!

Kelvin.

Hi, is there anyone active on this list I wonder?

I have played around with PyKaraoke for a number of years, but last 
summer found myself using it for real while running weekly Karaoke 
sessions at my local bar in Rhyl, North Wales.

Last week, I ran Karaoke in Benidorm using some professional software, 
and after that I did find the method PyKaraoke uses to search for titles 
a bit clunky, as the professional software used the more modern search 
as you type.

Anyway I re-wrote a bit of the search routine in PyKaraoke to do a 
search while typing, and was wondering if anyone out there would be 
interested in trying my changes and giving me a second opinion.

Ken

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Torremar Benidorm & Bella Vista Rhyl.

A Unix/Linux user since 1983.

Hello!

I have been using the Debian packaged PyKaraoke for conversion of MP3+G 
files according to the recipe at:

    http://toby.ink/blog/2014/06/14/mp3-plus-g-to-mp4/

Any files with 'ñ' in the file path would not be converted and an 
exception thrown.

The problem seems to be around line 480 in pykdb.py, where neither 'dir' 
nor 'self.Filepath' is unicode()-ed. 'dir' is later os.path.join()-ed 
with unicode()-ed 'file' and then compared with 'self.Filepath'.

The attached patch fixes the problem for me.

Best Regards,

   Georg Lehner

Hi

my name is Daniel Schürmann and I am working for Mixxx, the free DJ
Software.

I am looking for a way to integrate Karaoke support to Mixxx.
This is the related Mixxx bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mixxx/+bug/1108386

It is probably the best solution to interface Mixxx with PyKaraoke, in a
way that Mixxx controls the transport and processes the audio samples while
PyKaraoke takes care of the Video output.

Will this be possible? What do we need for this?
Any ideas?

Thank you.

Daniel Schürmann

All my mp3 is artist - title.  I want to print out a book and I have no problem printing out artist - title but I also want title - artist and no matter which selection I select on sort by drop down, it only prints out as artist - title.

thanks,
mike

Hi,
  Is there any way I can slow the lyrics down? In the Windows program 
Van Bascoe, the lyrics play right on the beat of the note - which is the 
way it is supposed to be in my experience.

Pykaraoke is right ahead of the note the lyric should be sung to.
thanks
Lorna

i have dll d610 laptops 2 of them work fine with pykaraoke.the other 2
keep saying bad pykaraoke config,reinstall pykaraoke.when i do that i
still get the same error mes.its the same program as on the others.it dont
make sence.

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Saina" <ha...@cr...>

> we fix and refurbace computers and laptops for free of charge for
> handicapped,elderly and low income
> people.web[www.craftech.com/~harry]we
> have put pykaraoke o.7.1 on some laptops using xp-pro with out a> hitch.now
> using the same download program on some xp-pro laptops i get error> measage
> when i try to start the program that it configered wrong,reinstalling> may
> fix problem.i reinstall and get the same mesage.to top this off i burn> a
> copy of the program on a laptop that works and try to use it on the> ones
> that that the downloaded program doest work.i get the same mesage from> the
> working program i copyed.doesnt make senice.any hints? harry

What a wonderful idea.

My first recommendation is to see if a machine on which you had already 
installed it *and it was working* still shows it working -- automatic
updates to Windows XP itself have been known to break things.

If older installs are working, the next thing to look at is whether the
newer ones which don't are on the same Service Pack of WinXP; SP3 is the
final one, after which there were only security updates (and those are
about to stop), but lots of stuff changes from SP2 to SP3, and that could
be a problem.

If you can grab a screenshot of the error message, that would be helpful
too.

Cheers,
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we fix and refurbace computers and laptops for free of charge for
handicapped,elderly and low income people.web[www.craftech.com/~harry]we
have put pykaraoke o.7.1 on some laptops using xp-pro with out a hitch.now
using the same download program on some xp-pro laptops i get error measage
when i try to start the program that it configered wrong,reinstalling may
fix problem.i reinstall and get the same mesage.to top this off i burn a
copy of the program on a laptop that works and try to use it on the ones
that that the downloaded program doest work.i get the same mesage from the
working program i copyed.doesnt make senice.any hints? harry

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Marcus Peterson
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A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. -- Solomon (Proverbs 15:1)