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From: Stefan G. <ste...@gm...> - 2008-02-26 17:33:29
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Hi, I have a version in my private svn repo which builds and is able to download stuff (that version was attached in a previous mail). My current version has the patches applied that are also in the rel_0_2_5_patches branch. I am interested in the cmake files if you still have them. My cmake collection only checks for standard Qt4/kde4 stuff and the berkeley DB c++ bindings. There are still a few todo's/crashes but most if it works. Stefan On Tuesday 26 February 2008 00:58:06 Niels van Mourik wrote: > Hello there!, > > On Wednesday 02 January 2008 22:41:39 Bauno wrote: > > On Friday 21 December 2007 20:40:22 Stefan wrote: > > > I would like to help porting KLibido to kde4. I looked at the mailing > > > list archives for a port but I couldn't find anything, so I assume > > > there is none yet? > > > > A guy, Niels van Mourik, who I am CCing in this e-mail, showed up and > > started doing something about it some time ago. > > That's true, started (i think) more then 6 month's ago trying to port > Klibido. At least I got all the cmake files in place and a few modules > actually compiled. Unfortunately KDE' s API has been breaking a lot since > the introduction of the solid stuff and some other big BC changes, so my > efforts won't work anymore and it looks Stefan is way further on it's way. > > > I haven't heard from him in > > a while, and it's certainly my fault since I haven't be at all > > supportive. > > That's not completely true, I've got a full time job which is eating up a > lot of private time as well. > > > But I hardly answer e-mails (and usually after a lot of time). Sorry > > about that. > > Nevermind. > > > However. I don't know qt4/kde4 programming at all, but I may have some > > space left in my brain for a new toolkit ;-]. > > Nowadays we have http://techbase.kde.org/ which really lists loads of stuff > people might wan't to know. The Qt4 and KDE4 API's are a huge improvement > over KDE3, especially performance, multimedia and hardware detection are > quite good now. But all namespaces and libs got a very big overhaul. > > > It's some time I want to re-start working on KLibido...I might just take > > the chance. But I really cannot guarantee to be suppotive. More about > > this in the next e-mails. > > It would be very very cool as I don't have any time myself. If you are > interested I can donate you money :). > > TIA, > Niels |
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From: Niels v. M. <ni...@sh...> - 2008-02-25 23:58:21
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Hello there!, On Wednesday 02 January 2008 22:41:39 Bauno wrote: > On Friday 21 December 2007 20:40:22 Stefan wrote: > > I would like to help porting KLibido to kde4. I looked at the mailing > > list archives for a port but I couldn't find anything, so I assume there > > is none yet? > > A guy, Niels van Mourik, who I am CCing in this e-mail, showed up and > started doing something about it some time ago. That's true, started (i think) more then 6 month's ago trying to port Klibido. At least I got all the cmake files in place and a few modules actually compiled. Unfortunately KDE' s API has been breaking a lot since the introduction of the solid stuff and some other big BC changes, so my efforts won't work anymore and it looks Stefan is way further on it's way. > I haven't heard from him in > a while, and it's certainly my fault since I haven't be at all supportive. That's not completely true, I've got a full time job which is eating up a lot of private time as well. > But I hardly answer e-mails (and usually after a lot of time). Sorry about > that. Nevermind. > > However. I don't know qt4/kde4 programming at all, but I may have some > space left in my brain for a new toolkit ;-]. Nowadays we have http://techbase.kde.org/ which really lists loads of stuff people might wan't to know. The Qt4 and KDE4 API's are a huge improvement over KDE3, especially performance, multimedia and hardware detection are quite good now. But all namespaces and libs got a very big overhaul. > It's some time I want to re-start working on KLibido...I might just take > the chance. But I really cannot guarantee to be suppotive. More about this > in the next e-mails. It would be very very cool as I don't have any time myself. If you are interested I can donate you money :). TIA, Niels -- Niels van Mourik, KDE enthusiast doing promo work and part of the Akademy'08 team (registrations). Contact trough irc (nielsvm @ #akademy2008), e-mail or cellphone (0032622908411). |
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From: Bauno <ba...@in...> - 2008-01-24 22:34:33
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Hello everyone, As some of you may remember, I'm the author of KLibido. I write this e-mail because, after a long time, I started working on KLibido again. I created a CVS branch, which should become KLibido 0.2.6 in a short (I hope) time. A bit of Changelog: - Merged Dietrich patches (see Changelog-Dietrich at the bottom) - Thanks :) - Merged Thomas Anderson's Autoupdate patch - Thanks :) - Adding "NZB polling": a directory is scanned for NZB files, which are automatically added to the queue and downloaded - Made KLibido a KUniqueApplication (the name says it all) and added the ability to load a .nzb via command line - Minor changes and options here and there - Trying to squash some bugs This featureset is not yet complete, but I'm hoping to finish in reasonable times. Meanwhile, if you want to try the CVS, use the rel_0_2_5_patches branch. Regards, Bauno P.S.: the subject is a famous Galileo quote: "And yet it moves" ;-] -- Bauno |
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From: Stefan <ste...@gm...> - 2008-01-16 19:40:03
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On Friday 04 January 2008 12:42:29 Stefan wrote: > On Thursday 03 January 2008 21:12:25 Stefan wrote: > > On Thursday 03 January 2008 14:54:23 Stefan wrote: > > > On Thursday 03 January 2008 14:25:27 Bauno wrote: > > > > On Thursday 3 January 2008 11:39:23 Stefan wrote: > > > > > I don't think porting to kde4, refactoring kde3 version and then > > > > > porting those changes is not a good idea, because refactoring > > > > > probably changes most of the code which we'll than have to port > > > > > twice. > > > > > > > > Of course, this is the downside... > > > > > > > > > Also, the kde4 version > > > > > needs some refactoring, like model/view programming and I don't > > > > > really like the idea of 2 refactorings. > > > > > > > > Me neither. So you think it'd better if the two versions evolved > > > > independently for code? Only "ideas" should be ported between the two > > > > versions? :) > > > > > > > > > I also noticed the code is messy, so maybe we can better go for a > > > > > complete rewrite and only copy back some usefull stuff which > > > > > doesn't require much changes. > > > > > > > > Be aware that rewriting != refactoring, and usually takes much > > > > longer. > > > > > > > > > Does KJove have a cvs/svn/git/... somewhere so we can look at it? > > > > > > > > Nope...and I don't think the code can be made public right now...too > > > > embarassing. > > > > > > > > > What do we do with version control? I don't care if we stick with > > > > > cvs or move to svn or git, but I'd like to check in my changes as > > > > > fast as possible if we go for the port. > > > > > > > > KLibido is on cvs.sourceforge.net, and I think it should remain > > > > there. KLibido4 can be placed anywhere: in the same repository as a > > > > subdir, or as another module, or on SVN or git. Dunno. > > > > Questions: when will KDE4 be released? When will it be "universally" > > > > adopted? When do you think we could stop maintaining the kde3 > > > > version? Ok, I know, in fact I already stopped maintaining it a year > > > > ago or so > > > > > > > > :-\ ;-] > > > > > > kde4 is tagged tomorrow and released next week. Universally adopted, no > > > idea, but not in the next few months I think (pure speculation of > > > course). You can stop maintaining the kde3 version any time you want of > > > course, but maybe the first release of the kde4 version is a good time? > > > When we reach this point I think kde 4.0.1 should be out and be more > > > stable and widely adopted. > > > > > > Maybe it is smart to keep the 2 versions in the same repo and if cvs is > > > giving us any problems we can always move to somewhere else? There are > > > cvs2git tools so this shouldn't be much of a problem. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >-- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Klibido-devel mailing list > > > Kli...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel > > > > I continued porting 0.2.5 and I think most of it is done. About half of > > the files compile and the other half is mostly small stuff. Or at least > > the part make -k gives errors about. > > I did a diff between cvs and 0.2.5 and the bigger changes are only in a > > few files. > > > > I gave refactoring a second thought and I think it won't make much sense > > for 0.2.5 because I don't think many new features are added to this > > version (or am I wrong?). I don't like to refactor the kde4 version > > before we have a working because bug fixing will take much longer because > > you'll need to run it to find bugs :p > > > > I'll stop for today, but I'll hope to have it compiling (running??) > > tomorrow. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Klibido-devel mailing list > > Kli...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel > > It "runs"! > I've commented out some useless :p things like the menu and database > loading. There is a weird i18n thing after the filename for the database > which, I think, makes the create functions for the database fail and all > "get" statements fail after that. But since there are no return values for > opening the database (yet) it tries to read anyway and crashes. > > I'm not going to post screenshots yet, because it looks like crap, but it > runs :D > > Bauno: if you can give me cvs access I'll upload it to a branch, or if you > want a (big) patch I can post that too on the mailing list. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Klibido-devel mailing list > Kli...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel It runs and downloads stuff now. Menu is fixed with the exception of some missing icons. Some icons come from kdenetwork so you need that one too, but I haven't been able to find some others (see debug output if you want the names). Attached is a diff between 0.2.5 and my version, so have fun ;) Had to bzip it because the diff is 1.4MB... |
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From: Stefan <ste...@gm...> - 2008-01-04 11:40:16
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On Thursday 03 January 2008 21:12:25 Stefan wrote: > On Thursday 03 January 2008 14:54:23 Stefan wrote: > > On Thursday 03 January 2008 14:25:27 Bauno wrote: > > > On Thursday 3 January 2008 11:39:23 Stefan wrote: > > > > I don't think porting to kde4, refactoring kde3 version and then > > > > porting those changes is not a good idea, because refactoring > > > > probably changes most of the code which we'll than have to port > > > > twice. > > > > > > Of course, this is the downside... > > > > > > > Also, the kde4 version > > > > needs some refactoring, like model/view programming and I don't > > > > really like the idea of 2 refactorings. > > > > > > Me neither. So you think it'd better if the two versions evolved > > > independently for code? Only "ideas" should be ported between the two > > > versions? :) > > > > > > > I also noticed the code is messy, so maybe we can better go for a > > > > complete rewrite and only copy back some usefull stuff which doesn't > > > > require much changes. > > > > > > Be aware that rewriting != refactoring, and usually takes much longer. > > > > > > > Does KJove have a cvs/svn/git/... somewhere so we can look at it? > > > > > > Nope...and I don't think the code can be made public right now...too > > > embarassing. > > > > > > > What do we do with version control? I don't care if we stick with cvs > > > > or move to svn or git, but I'd like to check in my changes as fast as > > > > possible if we go for the port. > > > > > > KLibido is on cvs.sourceforge.net, and I think it should remain there. > > > KLibido4 can be placed anywhere: in the same repository as a subdir, or > > > as another module, or on SVN or git. Dunno. > > > Questions: when will KDE4 be released? When will it be "universally" > > > adopted? When do you think we could stop maintaining the kde3 version? > > > Ok, I know, in fact I already stopped maintaining it a year ago or so > > > :-\ ;-] > > > > kde4 is tagged tomorrow and released next week. Universally adopted, no > > idea, but not in the next few months I think (pure speculation of > > course). You can stop maintaining the kde3 version any time you want of > > course, but maybe the first release of the kde4 version is a good time? > > When we reach this point I think kde 4.0.1 should be out and be more > > stable and widely adopted. > > > > Maybe it is smart to keep the 2 versions in the same repo and if cvs is > > giving us any problems we can always move to somewhere else? There are > > cvs2git tools so this shouldn't be much of a problem. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Klibido-devel mailing list > > Kli...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel > > I continued porting 0.2.5 and I think most of it is done. About half of the > files compile and the other half is mostly small stuff. Or at least the > part make -k gives errors about. > I did a diff between cvs and 0.2.5 and the bigger changes are only in a few > files. > > I gave refactoring a second thought and I think it won't make much sense > for 0.2.5 because I don't think many new features are added to this version > (or am I wrong?). I don't like to refactor the kde4 version before we have > a working because bug fixing will take much longer because you'll need to > run it to find bugs :p > > I'll stop for today, but I'll hope to have it compiling (running??) > tomorrow. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Klibido-devel mailing list > Kli...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel It "runs"! I've commented out some useless :p things like the menu and database loading. There is a weird i18n thing after the filename for the database which, I think, makes the create functions for the database fail and all "get" statements fail after that. But since there are no return values for opening the database (yet) it tries to read anyway and crashes. I'm not going to post screenshots yet, because it looks like crap, but it runs :D Bauno: if you can give me cvs access I'll upload it to a branch, or if you want a (big) patch I can post that too on the mailing list. |
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From: Stefan <ste...@gm...> - 2008-01-03 20:10:18
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On Thursday 03 January 2008 14:54:23 Stefan wrote: > On Thursday 03 January 2008 14:25:27 Bauno wrote: > > On Thursday 3 January 2008 11:39:23 Stefan wrote: > > > I don't think porting to kde4, refactoring kde3 version and then > > > porting those changes is not a good idea, because refactoring probably > > > changes most of the code which we'll than have to port twice. > > > > Of course, this is the downside... > > > > > Also, the kde4 version > > > needs some refactoring, like model/view programming and I don't really > > > like the idea of 2 refactorings. > > > > Me neither. So you think it'd better if the two versions evolved > > independently for code? Only "ideas" should be ported between the two > > versions? :) > > > > > I also noticed the code is messy, so maybe we can better go for a > > > complete rewrite and only copy back some usefull stuff which doesn't > > > require much changes. > > > > Be aware that rewriting != refactoring, and usually takes much longer. > > > > > Does KJove have a cvs/svn/git/... somewhere so we can look at it? > > > > Nope...and I don't think the code can be made public right now...too > > embarassing. > > > > > What do we do with version control? I don't care if we stick with cvs > > > or move to svn or git, but I'd like to check in my changes as fast as > > > possible if we go for the port. > > > > KLibido is on cvs.sourceforge.net, and I think it should remain there. > > KLibido4 can be placed anywhere: in the same repository as a subdir, or > > as another module, or on SVN or git. Dunno. > > Questions: when will KDE4 be released? When will it be "universally" > > adopted? When do you think we could stop maintaining the kde3 version? > > Ok, I know, in fact I already stopped maintaining it a year ago or so :-\ > > ;-] > > kde4 is tagged tomorrow and released next week. Universally adopted, no > idea, but not in the next few months I think (pure speculation of course). > You can stop maintaining the kde3 version any time you want of course, but > maybe the first release of the kde4 version is a good time? When we reach > this point I think kde 4.0.1 should be out and be more stable and widely > adopted. > > Maybe it is smart to keep the 2 versions in the same repo and if cvs is > giving us any problems we can always move to somewhere else? There are > cvs2git tools so this shouldn't be much of a problem. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Klibido-devel mailing list > Kli...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel I continued porting 0.2.5 and I think most of it is done. About half of the files compile and the other half is mostly small stuff. Or at least the part make -k gives errors about. I did a diff between cvs and 0.2.5 and the bigger changes are only in a few files. I gave refactoring a second thought and I think it won't make much sense for 0.2.5 because I don't think many new features are added to this version (or am I wrong?). I don't like to refactor the kde4 version before we have a working because bug fixing will take much longer because you'll need to run it to find bugs :p I'll stop for today, but I'll hope to have it compiling (running??) tomorrow. |
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From: Stefan <ste...@gm...> - 2008-01-03 13:52:19
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On Thursday 03 January 2008 14:25:27 Bauno wrote: > On Thursday 3 January 2008 11:39:23 Stefan wrote: > > I don't think porting to kde4, refactoring kde3 version and then porting > > those changes is not a good idea, because refactoring probably changes > > most of the code which we'll than have to port twice. > > Of course, this is the downside... > > > Also, the kde4 version > > needs some refactoring, like model/view programming and I don't really > > like the idea of 2 refactorings. > > Me neither. So you think it'd better if the two versions evolved > independently for code? Only "ideas" should be ported between the two > versions? :) > > > I also noticed the code is messy, so maybe we can better go for a > > complete rewrite and only copy back some usefull stuff which doesn't > > require much changes. > > Be aware that rewriting != refactoring, and usually takes much longer. > > > Does KJove have a cvs/svn/git/... somewhere so we can look at it? > > Nope...and I don't think the code can be made public right now...too > embarassing. > > > What do we do with version control? I don't care if we stick with cvs or > > move to svn or git, but I'd like to check in my changes as fast as > > possible if we go for the port. > > KLibido is on cvs.sourceforge.net, and I think it should remain there. > KLibido4 can be placed anywhere: in the same repository as a subdir, or as > another module, or on SVN or git. Dunno. > Questions: when will KDE4 be released? When will it be "universally" > adopted? When do you think we could stop maintaining the kde3 version? Ok, > I know, in fact I already stopped maintaining it a year ago or so :-\ ;-] kde4 is tagged tomorrow and released next week. Universally adopted, no idea, but not in the next few months I think (pure speculation of course). You can stop maintaining the kde3 version any time you want of course, but maybe the first release of the kde4 version is a good time? When we reach this point I think kde 4.0.1 should be out and be more stable and widely adopted. Maybe it is smart to keep the 2 versions in the same repo and if cvs is giving us any problems we can always move to somewhere else? There are cvs2git tools so this shouldn't be much of a problem. |
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From: Bauno <ba...@in...> - 2008-01-03 13:25:39
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On Thursday 3 January 2008 11:39:23 Stefan wrote: > I don't think porting to kde4, refactoring kde3 version and then porting > those changes is not a good idea, because refactoring probably changes most > of the code which we'll than have to port twice. Of course, this is the downside... > Also, the kde4 version > needs some refactoring, like model/view programming and I don't really like > the idea of 2 refactorings. Me neither. So you think it'd better if the two versions evolved independently for code? Only "ideas" should be ported between the two versions? :) > I also noticed the code is messy, so maybe we can better go for a complete > rewrite and only copy back some usefull stuff which doesn't require much > changes. Be aware that rewriting != refactoring, and usually takes much longer. > Does KJove have a cvs/svn/git/... somewhere so we can look at it? Nope...and I don't think the code can be made public right now...too embarassing. > What do we do with version control? I don't care if we stick with cvs or > move to svn or git, but I'd like to check in my changes as fast as possible > if we go for the port. KLibido is on cvs.sourceforge.net, and I think it should remain there. KLibido4 can be placed anywhere: in the same repository as a subdir, or as another module, or on SVN or git. Dunno. Questions: when will KDE4 be released? When will it be "universally" adopted? When do you think we could stop maintaining the kde3 version? Ok, I know, in fact I already stopped maintaining it a year ago or so :-\ ;-] -- Bauno |
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From: Stefan <ste...@gm...> - 2008-01-03 10:37:19
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On Wednesday 02 January 2008 23:25:55 Bauno wrote: > On Wednesday 2 January 2008 23:18:25 Thomas Anderson wrote: > > We were not necessarily thinking about a fork or anything. We just felt > > like we wanted to start off with something that was working. We didn't > > have any idea how much was left to do with the cvs code. I personally > > didn't want to try and pick up half way through a database interface > > rewrite. That was my opinion, but I am along for whatever ride. I don't > > have the experience to be the driving force. > > On one hand, you're right, 0.2.5 is working (more or less) and it's a good > starting point for a KDE4 port. > On the other hand, the code is a real mess and should be heavily reactored > ASAP. So it could be possible it's not worth the effort to port it. > Ideally, the refactoring should take place before the port. But > practically, since we don't know how much it will take, it's maybe worth to > start the two jobs "in parallel". The KDE 4 team can then decide if and > when port the "refactored" code into their branch. > > Opinions needed :-] I don't think porting to kde4, refactoring kde3 version and then porting those changes is not a good idea, because refactoring probably changes most of the code which we'll than have to port twice. Also, the kde4 version needs some refactoring, like model/view programming and I don't really like the idea of 2 refactorings. I put most of the changes I already made to 0.2.5 in a simple script, so it can be either applied to 0.2.5 or current cvs. I also noticed the code is messy, so maybe we can better go for a complete rewrite and only copy back some usefull stuff which doesn't require much changes. I think it will be easier this way to integrate KJove without making the code even worse. Does KJove have a cvs/svn/git/... somewhere so we can look at it? What do we do with version control? I don't care if we stick with cvs or move to svn or git, but I'd like to check in my changes as fast as possible if we go for the port. |
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From: Bauno <ba...@in...> - 2008-01-02 22:26:00
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On Wednesday 2 January 2008 23:18:25 Thomas Anderson wrote: > We were not necessarily thinking about a fork or anything. We just felt > like we wanted to start off with something that was working. We didn't have > any idea how much was left to do with the cvs code. I personally didn't > want to try and pick up half way through a database interface rewrite. That > was my opinion, but I am along for whatever ride. I don't have the > experience to be the driving force. On one hand, you're right, 0.2.5 is working (more or less) and it's a good starting point for a KDE4 port. On the other hand, the code is a real mess and should be heavily reactored ASAP. So it could be possible it's not worth the effort to port it. Ideally, the refactoring should take place before the port. But practically, since we don't know how much it will take, it's maybe worth to start the two jobs "in parallel". The KDE 4 team can then decide if and when port the "refactored" code into their branch. Opinions needed :-] -- Bauno - Meglio dell'ebola, ma di poco. |
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From: Thomas A. <ta...@ne...> - 2008-01-02 22:08:44
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On Wednesday 02 January 2008 4:57:11 pm Bauno wrote: > On Wednesday 2 January 2008 11:19:31 Stefan wrote: > > Thomas and I think it is best to port version 0.2.5, because we know this > > version works correctly. If we get this working, we can start merging the > > newer parts and adding features. > > So you think the two versions can evolve independently? I have a few > patches I and other users have made which I haven't be able to commit yet > (sorry guys!). With a couple of bugfixes, they could make a 0.2.5.1 (or > 0.2.6) version... We were not necessarily thinking about a fork or anything. We just felt like we wanted to start off with something that was working. We didn't have any idea how much was left to do with the cvs code. I personally didn't want to try and pick up half way through a database interface rewrite. That was my opinion, but I am along for whatever ride. I don't have the experience to be the driving force. -- Thomas Anderson Nextgen Engineering LLC 7955 Bird RD. Hastings, MI 49058 269 838 9310 ta...@ne... http://www.nextgenengineering.com ftp://ftpcustomer:cus...@ne... |
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From: Bauno <ba...@in...> - 2008-01-02 21:57:20
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On Wednesday 2 January 2008 11:19:31 Stefan wrote: > Thomas and I think it is best to port version 0.2.5, because we know this > version works correctly. If we get this working, we can start merging the > newer parts and adding features. So you think the two versions can evolve independently? I have a few patches I and other users have made which I haven't be able to commit yet (sorry guys!). With a couple of bugfixes, they could make a 0.2.5.1 (or 0.2.6) version... -- Bauno - Meglio dell'ebola, ma di poco. |
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From: Bauno <ba...@in...> - 2008-01-02 21:53:56
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On Wednesday 2 January 2008 11:21:19 Christian Westgaard wrote:
> I haven't been long on this list, but I was under the impression
> development hasn't been active lately.
Good euphemism ;-]
> I'm all for it as long as Buano has
> the time :)
It's some time I think ("Think" as in "I don't actually DO anything") about
cleaning up some of the mess in KLibido...I may try to help.
--
Bauno - Meglio dell'ebola, ma di poco.
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From: Bauno <ba...@in...> - 2008-01-02 21:49:10
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On Friday 21 December 2007 23:36:40 Thomas Anderson wrote: > I would help out where I could. What we really need is transactional > database. There is already some code in the CVS. I started working on it a year ago or so. It "almost" works. Then I started refactoring the db code, to make an abstraction layer above the db, so we ca program to the same interface and use berkeley db, sqlite, etc. Then I rewrote the db (unfortunately, only on paper) to easily detect crossposts, speed up things, optimize storage. There is a lot of work to do and IMO a lot of refactoring has to be done before adding "heavy" new features. > I would like to work on a post job process queue. For doing pars > and rars. etc.. Already working on KJove (KDE Joiner-Verifier-Extractor) which uses libpar2 and libunrar. Right now it's a coming out as a stand-alone application, but most of the code should be reusable in KLibido. -- Bauno - Meglio dell'ebola, ma di poco. |
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From: Bauno <ba...@in...> - 2008-01-02 21:41:47
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On Friday 21 December 2007 20:40:22 Stefan wrote: > I would like to help porting KLibido to kde4. I looked at the mailing list > archives for a port but I couldn't find anything, so I assume there is none > yet? A guy, Niels van Mourik, who I am CCing in this e-mail, showed up and started doing something about it some time ago. I haven't heard from him in a while, and it's certainly my fault since I haven't be at all supportive. But I hardly answer e-mails (and usually after a lot of time). Sorry about that. However. I don't know qt4/kde4 programming at all, but I may have some space left in my brain for a new toolkit ;-]. It's some time I want to re-start working on KLibido...I might just take the chance. But I really cannot guarantee to be suppotive. More about this in the next e-mails. -- Bauno |
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From: Stefan <ste...@gm...> - 2008-01-02 19:26:35
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You might want to try compiling soprano from kdesupport, it's not really big and works ok here. On Wednesday 02 January 2008 20:31:27 Thomas Anderson wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008 5:05:49 am Christian Westgaard wrote: > > I have no experience on any version system, so I am open to anything. > > I failed on my first attempt to setup a kde4 build system. I hit a wall > with kubuntu gutsy at the soprano version. Version installed was too old > and cmake was bailing on the current soprano version. This os setup went > through the alpha and beta cycle, so I might reinstall and give it another > go. > > > I would like to contribute too :) > > > > How about setting up a git "repository"? > > > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:15:21 +0100, Stefan <ste...@gm...> wrote: > > > Just found a cmake file for berkeleydb in kdelibs so I'm going to try > > > that one. > > > > > > On Saturday 22 December 2007 10:05:22 Stefan wrote: > > >> I made a start with the port, but it doesn't compile yet because of > > >> the db_cxx.h not being in the include path. I'll try to make a cmake > > >> file for finding it. > > >> > > >> Can't commit anything yet because I only have read access to the cvs > > >> repository. > > >> > > >> Doing pars and rars from klibido would be really cool! > > >> > > >> On Friday 21 December 2007 23:36:40 Thomas Anderson wrote: > > >> > On Friday 21 December 2007 2:40:22 pm Stefan wrote: > > >> > > > >> > I would help out where I could. What we really need is transactional > > >> > database. I would like to work on a post job process queue. For > > >> > doing pars and rars. etc.. > > >> > > > >> > > Hello, > > >> > > > > >> > > First, I really like KLibido, it's a great newsgroup client! > > >> > > > > >> > > I would like to help porting KLibido to kde4. I looked at the > > >> > > mailing list archives for a port but I couldn't find anything, so > > >> > > I assume there is none yet? > > >> > > > > >> > > I have some experience programming with Qt4, but not much with > > >> > > kde4. I do have a kde4 development environment up and running. > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > Stefan Geuns > > >> > > sf account: bitrain > > >> > > bi...@gm... > > >> > > > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > >-- --- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > >> > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > >> > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > Klibido-devel mailing list > > >> > > Kli...@li... > > >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel > > >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>-- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Klibido-devel mailing list > > >> Kli...@li... > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >-- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Klibido-devel mailing list > > > Kli...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/klibido-devel |